Good morning, Autopians, and happy Friday to you all! Today we’re lifting our price cap so we can take a look at a couple of French cuties that were once forbidden fruit, but are now old enough for us to enjoy. (That could so easily be misconstrued… You know what I mean.) But before we do, let’s see which one of our survivors lives to fight another day:
Oldsmobile it is. And when you take ‘er in for service, ask for Shep Proudfoot. I hear he does good work.
Now, it has probably not escaped your attention that we here at the Autopian are fans of some pretty weird cars. And I think it’s safe to say that none of us are fans of the Federal ban on importing cars that are less than 25 years old. We miss out on a whole lot of cool cars because of that ban, but at least a whole new “graduating class” becomes eligible for import each year.
A lot of attention has been focused on Japanese imports, due to the near-mythological status of some of them among gearheads, the lauded Japanese build quality and reliability, and the fact that they’re just plain cool. But a lot of other parts of the world build cars that are worth considering, and are now old enough to enter the US legally. Today we’re going to look at two such cars, both French, and both just as cute as a button (though admittedly not as cute as a Renault Twingo). Let’s take a look.
1995 Citroën C15 – $7,500
Engine/drivetrain: 1.8 liter diesel inline 4, 5 speed manual, FWD
Location: In transit, ultimately bound for Lake Oswego, OR
Odometer reading: 91,000 km
Runs/drives? We assume
It seems like most of the attention paid to potential imports focuses on performance cars, and they’re fine, I suppose. But I’ve always been fascinated by the everyday vehicles used in other parts of the world, especially work vehicles, and the tiny vans of Europe are some of the best. These little wonders can be seen zipping around any European city, picking up this, delivering that, doing the day-to-day legwork that makes a city go.
The Citroën C15 is based on the Visa city car, a tiny 5 door hatchback, in much the same way that the old 2CV Fourgonnette was based on a standard 2CV: hack it off behind the front doors, and stick a big box on the back. It’s an easy way to make a commercial vehicle on the cheap, and it worked for decades: the C15 was produced from 1984-2005.
This C15 is on its way to the US from Spain, where it only racked up the equivalent of about 60,000 miles. It’s powered by a naturally-aspirated version of the PSA Group’s XUD diesel engine, displacing 1.8 liters. The French seem to know their diesels, so I expect this engine has lots of life left in it. The rest of this little van looks well-kept too, and although you might have to import parts for it, the sheer numbers of these built (1.2 million over the years) should mean spares are available.
The use cases for a little box-on-wheels that gets 40 miles to the gallon are nearly endless: delivery van, tiny camper, or, hell, just drive it as your car. You could make some epic Costco runs in this thing.
1995 Peugeot 306 – $5,900
Engine/drivetrain: 1.9 liter diesel inline 4, 5 speed manual, FWD
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Odometer reading: 139,000 km
Runs/drives? Yep
Small hatchbacks never caught on in America, but they’ve been the default family car in Europe for decades. We only got the VW Golf over here, with a smattering of Ford Fiestas and an occasional Focus thrown in for seasoning. But Peugeot was well-known for small family hatchbacks for a long time. We heard the legends of fire-breathing Group B rally cars, but the humble little diesels like this one are what made those rally monsters possible, and great.
Did I say diesel? Yep, this one too. It’s a slightly larger (1.9 liter) and more powerful (70 horsepower) version of the same XUD-series engine. This car should get awesome fuel economy, though it will seem a little pokey to American drivers. Peugeot hatchbacks are renowned for their good handling, however, so it should be a reasonably fun little car to drive.
It looks like it’s in great condition, and has the equivalent of around 80,000 miles on it. This car is actually in the country already, too, so you can go look at it and test drive it. You won’t win any drag races in it, but you’d be the talk of pretty much any Cars & Coffee. (“Sure, there’s three Gallardos in a row, but is that really a Peugeot 306?“)
On paper, this car makes no sense, especially for nearly six grand. It’s a 27-year-old economy car that is dirt-common on its home turf. But lots of cars don’t make any sense. That’s no reason not to check them out. It’s going to take exactly the right person to buy this, but that person won’t be able to imagine driving anything else.
Keen eyes will have noticed that these two cars appear to have been imported by the same person. Both were brought over from Spain, and probably bought there for a song. Both say “Oregon license pending,” and I’m not sure exactly what that means. Oregon’s DMV website says that a vehicle from a foreign country can be titled here, as long as US Customs has inspected and cleared it. I would guess that the seller has submitted that paperwork and is waiting for it to come through.
Of course, then you need to get it registered, which here in Oregon requires an emissions test, unless you can convince them that it qualifies for “Specialty Vehicle” plates, which are permanent and don’t need renewal, but limit the vehicle’s use to special occasions. But as a member of my MG club once said, “Every time I drive this car, it’s a special occasion.”
The point is that a 25-year-exemption car isn’t for everyone, even one that is already in the US. There are a lot of hoops to jump through, and a lot of red tape to cut. To make it worthwhile, you have to really like the car you’re trying to title and register. Given these two choices, which one will it be?
If we end up in a Mad Max like posapocalyptic scenario, I’d expect to see people rolling on these Citroëns, they are unkillable. In Europe they are portrayed on several memes, and featured in several videos, from being drifted (‘not really since it’s fwd) to being turned into a proper 4wd.
This article caused me to go down a deep, dark rabbit hole. I lived in the UK for a while several years back and loved the little 306s that raced around everywhere out there. Seeing this was the first time I realized they were legal for import. That led to me looking for some stateside, I found a petrol one in Dallas, which is only 4 hours from me, but the seller wasn’t very quick to answer questions, so I started looking at ones still in Europe. I am now in the process of importing a GTI-6 from the UK. And I have you to blame, or thank, or both. I think we’ll go with both.
Things I would rather import that are 25 years old (up to 1997)
TVR Chimaera,
Fiat Uno Turbo,
Ford Puma (coupe) is fabulous.
Ford Escort XR3i,
Ford Sierra RS500,
Vauxhall Astra GTE
Lotus Carlton
MG Maestro Turbo
Peugeot 106 Rallye
Peugeot 309 GTi
Rover Tomcat
MGZT 260 V8
VW Corrado VR6
And of course the LEGENDARY Ford Escort Cosworth
A C15 for me, almost had one as my first car but, especially in van form, my 1m95 (6’3) wouldn’t fit. But still love the simplicity and practicality and especially the high ground clearance. Belgian companies also loved them, the one I was looking to buy was property of Stella Artois. But in France and Spain, it truly is the countryside car of choice, I saw one in 2019 in Spain going through a desert like landscape on a rocky road riddled with so many deep holes and so many sharp stones, even my VW Caddy (although it has some clearance too) and especially the wider tires wouldn’t survive. The C15 just plodded on merrily. The 306 is a fine driving car, but would rather like a 106 (fun !) or a 406 from that period.
C15 all the way baby. The 306 is a good car (my GF has one, it does its job), but the C15 is iconic! It’s THE French rural vehicle (along with the Renault Express).
These are the shitboxes your farmer uncle has been driving for 25 years, barely changed the oil and the fucker just keeps on trucking. You Americans “need” an F250 to buy some mulch? You’d be blown away by what you see C15s loaded up with. 2×4, furniture, bricks and mortar, live fucking animals… I have even seen people use them as support vehicles at the track, complete with air compressor, spare tires and toolbox!
So again: go C15 and experience the crazy life from Trifouilly-les-Oies.
In fairness, you hear a lot about the F250s and such, but they’re outnumbered by beat-up old 4 cylinder Ford Rangers and Toyota Tacomas by a large margin when it comes to trucks being used for actual work.
They still dwarf any Renault Express or Citroën C15, so my point stands 🙂
I’d love to putter around in that Citroën. I have seen those little vans being beaten and abused and they just keep going – obviously not as indestructible as a Hilux, but the vast majority I saw were trade vans for Frenchmen who couldn’t give deux caca about a bump, scratch or crater sized dent here and there. The fact that this one has straight bodywork and windows instead of panel sides suggests to me it has lived a much gentler life so far.
Growing up riding in my uncles 205 GTi, I always felt like the 106, 206, and 306 pugs were a bit disappointing on every front – styling went a bit blah, motors went a bit blah, little old ladies snapped them up in their droves so any ‘cool factor’ went rapidly downhill.
I had 2 106 and the small form factor made them a hoot to drive though. You could get an S16 and have a blast!
I had forgotten about the 106 rallye too – those white steelies!
Why is the 306 doing so well? Where I’m from it’s probably the most popular French car from the 90s I think it out sold the golf. Its a good looking little car. But you don’t want the 1.9 diesel. There were better engines. You could find a nicer cheaper newer one and import it I’m sure. That little van is cool! It’s interesting. It’s different and yes I’m sure it’s extraordinarily slow.
306 for me since I could just about daily it. Plus a manual diesel hatchback? Sign me up!
Both good choices (for some values of good, at least). I went with the Citroën because it’s the weirder of the two
The 306 for me since it has more power, is probably lighter and in a body style I’d prefer to live with.
French speaking guy here, the better traduction for shitbox would be “bac à merde”.
The C15 have got kind of a cult following in France, it’s really the car of the countryside.
Dammit, Google Translate… oh well, it’s still funny.
Missed opportunity for an Arrested Development reference: Les Cousins Dangereux, anyone?
Come to think of it, that “van” looks like the product of kissing cousins…
I’ll take the ugly box thing, I guess. At least it comes with some utility and a few fun possibilities – camper, quirky gyro truck, etc. That 306 is not good for much. If I need shitty A to B transport, I’ll stick with a local model.