A few years back, I got to go to Wolfsburg, Germany, for some Volkswagen event. While there I went to the Volkswagen Foundation museum, which is fantastic and full of obscure prototypes and all manner of wonders, and Volkswagen’s Autostadt, which is a sort of car museum/theme park right next to the huge VW factory. This morning let’s look at some cars from the Autostadt, specifically a few pairings of cars VW’s curators put together, and let’s see if we can figure out what the common threads are. I mean, why not? What the hell else are you doing?
Let’s start with that top one up there: we have, let’s see, a pretty unlikely pairing: a Trabant 601, the East German smoky wonder, and a C1 Chevy Corvette. What do these two have in common? Why are they paired up here? I think I know why: they’re both made of interesting and pioneering composite materials. The Corvette is fiberglass, at the time better known for boat manufacture, and the Trabant is made of Duroplast, a composite made of resin and old Soviet underpants that was occasionally snacked upon by goats.
Let’s look at another pair! How about this Lotus Elite Series II and a Matra Djet 6:
What do they have in common? Well, hm, I think maybe they’re just similarly-scaled European sports cars? Sort of uncompromising, pure sports cars? The Djet is mid-engined and the Elite is front-engined, so maybe showing two different approaches to the same problem? Maybe.
How about this one: a Chevy Corvair and a Porsche 911!
This one is easy! They’re both air-cooled, rear-mounted flat-six engines!
Here’s another odd matchup, a Tatra T87 and a Volkswagen XL1:
I’m thinking these two are sharing floorspace because they’re both sort of uncompromising aerodynamic examples, both approaching, as best they could, that ideal teardrop shape.
Next we have these two little fellas, an Autobianchi A112 and an Austin Mini:
I think this is another case of two similar cars solving the same basic problem. Both of these are transverse, FWD cars, though the Autobianchi has a more modern hatch compared to the Mini’s flip-down trunk.
Okay, the VW Thing there is pretty cut off, but you know what a Thing looks like. It’s matched with this Empi Imp dune buggy, something of a Meyers Manx knockoff:
I think these are just showing the off-road, fun-car potential of the basic Type 1 VW chassis, one from the original manufacturer and intended for military use first, the other an aftermarket kit just for fun.
This next one, a Delorean DMC 12 and a Alfa Romeo Alfasud Super 1.3, I have to admit I really am not sure why these two were paired up.
Is it just because they’re both sort of wedgy? I don’t get it.
This next one is a lot easier:
That’s a 1938 Beetle, the first year the Beetle design was truly finalized for production, and a 2003 Beetle, in fact the very last (Ultima Series) Beetle ever made. First and last. You can see a lot of detail changes and not a lot of big-picture changes there. Pretty incredible.
That early model beetle is gorgeous in gloss black
The little round badge on the Corvair’s decklid and the tea tray on the Porsche’s means they’re both *turbocharged* air-cooled, rear-mounted flat-sixes!
My in-laws are Romanian, and are well versed as to the Trabant.
My father in law told me that you’d order a car, wait forever to get it, and then when you’d get it, depending on where your car was on the train that shipped it, you could have little burns through the body from the embers coming from locomotive that hauled it from the factory.
A really good cold start today.
I think the biggest difference is the taillight size from 1938 to 2013. Geez, were they paying by the cm² back then?
A low drag coefficient for their era. The Elite had a drag coefficient of 0.29, and the Djet a 0.27.
That was my guess upon seeing the pair. For their time period, they were among the most aerodynamic vehicles sold to the public, the Tatra T87 having a 0.36 drag coefficient in 1936(a downgrade from its predecessor, the T77A, which had a 0.21 in 1935), and the VW XL1 having a 0.19 Cd value.
According to wiki:
The smooth body of the T77a gave a coefficient of aerodynamic drag of 0.212. Some sources, though, claim that this figure was based on a 1:5 scale-model test, and it has been confirmed recently that the drag coefficient for the real full-size car is 0.36.
0.212 would be pretty astounding. Also, wikipedia can be unreliable.
“This next one, a Delorean DMC 12 and a Alfa Romeo Alfasud Super 1.3, I have to admit I really am not sure why these two were paired up.“
I think it might be that they’re both kammbacks.
Both are capable of time travel, neither are capable of actual travel.
TBH, it’s always been an exercise in suspension of disbelief when I watch the Back to the Future movies. I’m OK with the whole flux capacitor making time travel possible. I’m just not convinced the Delorean could reach 88 mph that quickly and consistently without something breaking.
Yet, it’s still a pretty car to look at.
Maybe Doc dug up a Legend turbo kit?
Both were designed by Giugiaro. That’s the best link I can come up with.
Both cars were failures despite having early great promise, and both cars were built by workers in places where the workers had little or no history in building automobiles -Ireland for Delorean and southern Italy for Alfa – and both had the that decision forced on them by politics. Are you sure there isn’t a Hillman Imp joining in that picture somewhere?
Opposite ends of the rustability spectrum?
Both the Elite and the Djet were early pioneers of super lightweight, aerodynamically efficient, GRP constructed, modestly powered sports cars. The Elite in particular was a little over 1000lbs, which is mind boggling even today.
What is mind boggling is that someone would bolt a suspension directly to molded fiberglass. And that it would mostly work, until you hit a curb, ran through a puddle, or drove over cobblestones. I love the Elite. I fear the Elite.
I WANT the Elite.
Think of what could be done with modern technology.
I say this as an engineer: it is possible to build a sub-900 lb 2-seater streamliner EV that only needs 10 horsepower to hold 100 mph, which could be gifted with AWD and over 300 peak horsepower on tap with hub motors, and get competitive 250+ miles of freeway range on a battery of under 15 kWh. In volume, this could be an extremely inexpensive vehicle to build considering how little materials are needed. No one with the resources to build it is brave enough to try it, but damn wouldn’t such a thing be an enthusiast’s dream? The closest we’ve gotten is the McMurtry Speirling, but that’s a one-seater, is bespoke, and low volume. And damn is it beautiful.
Instead, we commoners can have whatever EV we like, as long as it’s another $60k 5,000 lb lardass of a crossover with the driving dynamics of a stuck pig wrapped in bubble packaging thrown in a shopping cart.
I eventually want to build something like the Speirling, without compromising on the aero drag reduction, looking to pedal-powered velomobiles for inspiration and using one as a base. My first proof of concept vehicle only needed 0.008-0.010 kWh/mile to cruise around town at 30-35 mph, and I live in a hilly area. 150-200 miles range, operating in traffic, off of a tiny 1.5 kWh battery.
Both the Djet and Elite were also able to get near 40 miles per gallon in daily use as a result of that low mass and low drag, using engines that were roughly half as thermally efficient as those used in modern automobiles.
Both are mid engined. (The Elite’s engine is aft of the front axle.)
I had seen pictures but had no idea how jewel-like the are until I stood beside one.
I just ordered a POORISH decal for the back of my Corvair so that pairing was spot on. These photos made my morning. Thank you.
https://www.blipshift.com/products/poorish-decal
These “pairings” represent the basis for my fantasy Fabulous Automotive Collection being led two-by-two to the Lavish Display Space — complete with giant access door so I could take ’em all out for drives.
Well, except for the DeLorean and Alfasud, neither of which ever made my wishlist.
But the rest? Yummy!
Delorean and Alfasud were both Giugiaro designs. Maybe that’s what they were after.
shucks, you beat me to it while I was trying to work in a cocaine joke
I remember riding as a kid with my mom in a beetle taxi in Mexico city, where the passenger seat was out so you could get in and out fast. With crime raising, they prohibited 2 doors taxis and that’s what basically killed the beetle in Mexico.
Reading Torch, you just never know when the snort is coming.
I curiously looked up Duraplast (actually Duroplast). Torch’s description is not far off!
Don’t let the Underpants Gnomes find it then.
Corvettes were also occasionally feasted upon by Goats in the ‘60s.
While it’s a myth that goats will eat tin cans (they eat the labels), they will eat just about anything else.
This attribute makes goats the only realistic way to get rid of kudzu. You can’t mow it or use a weedeater. The vines just wrap around the machines’ respective shafts and choke out the engines. A small herd of goats can clear an acre of kudzu in a matter of hours. Leave them out there a couple of days and it’ll be stripped to bare earth.
In my experience with goats though the undesirable plant has to be the last option for them to eat. Goats will eat anything but only if they have to. Shetland sheep, on the other hand, willingly eat anything. We had a big thistle problem on our property a few years ago with a huge (>100sqft) patch of thistles. The Shetlands literally laid in it while eating it.
Ruminants Rock
A goat will kill for tobacco. or rip through a shirt/jacket, plough through a screen door, probably tap dance and sing the Marseillaise.
I hear they’re crazy for Tomacco as well.
I had a roommate like that, once.
The Baphomet loves both Trabants and Corvettes.
Is that you Alister?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lBiyTwcR4