Welcome back! We’ve got another pair of vehicles chosen by my lovely wife Erika, a pair of pickup trucks, one each from the two states we passed through today – Utah and Wyoming.
Yesterday, we had a blowout – and I don’t mean of the tire variety. That poor Camaro absolutely got slaughtered in the voting. Some of you wondered if that Yukon was, in fact, a scam, because it sounded too good to be true. I doubt it. I didn’t include the photo, but that front bumper has seen better days. I bet that turned off a few prospective buyers.
I have no use for the Yukon since we already have a newer one, but it is definitely the better deal here. If the Camaro were a manual, it might be a different story, but automatic V6 pony cars are just dull, purple or not.
All right, let’s turn our attention to trucks because really, that’s all you find for sale out here. We’ve got a Ford and a Chevy, but they’re not exactly comparable, because one has thirty years’ worth of advancements over the other. Of course, not everyone considers advancements a good thing, especially when it comes to trucks. There is something to be said for a simple machine that you can tune with a flathead screwdriver. But comfort, convenience, and efficiency count for a lot as well. Which one will prevail? That’s up to you.
1982 Chevrolet K10 Scottsdale – $3,000
Engine/drivetrain: 305 cubic inch overhead valve V8, four-speed manual, part-time 4WD
Location: Casper, WY
Odometer reading: 231,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
Here we have the classic Chevy stepside 4×4 truck, a vehicle that probably exists in greater numbers in toy and model form than in full-size. Add a roll bar with lights on it and some crazy graphics, and this thing could be a Stomper, or an MPC model kit. But we all know the vast majority of squarebody Chevy trucks were fleetsides, and long beds. It’s cool to see an actual stepside 4×4, even if it is a bit rusty.
Even better, it’s a V8 and a stick! This truck is powered by a 305 cubic inch small block – not the most powerful weapon in GM’s arsenal, even back then, but it has potential – and our old buddy the SM465 four-speed manual gearbox. Even better, the rear axle is a 12 bolt with a Positraction limited-slip differential, though we don’t know the gear ratio. The seller says it runs and drives well, despite the high mileage.
It’s the mid-level Scottsdale trim, though this is well before the era of luxury trucks. The “fancy” trim on this truck consists of carpet and maybe nicer door cards. It’s in pretty good shape inside, though there’s no telling what’s under that seat cover. The seller says everything inside works, though again, “everything” doesn’t entail a whole lot in this case.
Outside, it needs some help. Rust has been busy on this truck, though the rare part – the stepside bed – doesn’t look too bad. To me, this looks like a cool project waiting to happen, and something you can actually drive while you work on it.
1998 Ford F-150 XLT – $2,888
Engine/drivetrain: 4.6-liter overhead cam V8, four-speed automatic, part-time 4WD
Location: Provo, UT
Odometer reading: 238,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well, but needs new tires
For something a bit more modern, we have a tenth-generation Ford F-150, a polarizing design that’s chock-full of advancements that could only be dreamed of when the K10 was built. An overhead cam engine, fuel injection, electronically controlled everything, and massive improvements to noise, vibration, and harshness make this a much nicer truck to drive.
This truck may be modern compared to that old Chevy, but it’s twenty-six years old, and is rapidly approaching a quarter million miles. Wear and tear are inevitable at that age, though this one doesn’t look too bad. There’s a hole in the seat, and the headliner is drooping, but I haven’t seen a ’90s car with an intact headliner for years. They all seem to droop eventually.
Mechanically, the seller says it runs and drives well, but it’s in need of new tires, and the heat doesn’t work. They suspect a plugged heater core, which is a possibility, as is a failure in the HVAC controls somewhere. But hey, it’s June; you’ve got time to sort it out before winter.
There is one major annoyance with this ad. The photos show a bed-mounted toolbox, which would be a nice little bonus, but the text says it isn’t included. If that’s the case, take it out before you take the photos. It’s not quite false advertising, but it isn’t far off.
So that’s what we’re dealing with today – a couple of old high-mileage trucks from different eras. Both run and drive, and both need a little help. Will it be the old cool model, or the newer and easier-to-live-with pickup?
(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)
Well, this is easy…I’ll take the awesome K10 vs that ugly Found On Road Dead bubble boy piece of junk
I want a truck, not a box of iron oxide.
The Chevy could be a good value at half of that price. Maybe 2/3 if it had a 350.
The Ford is priced to sell.
I want a truck, not a box of iron oxide.
The Chevy could be a good value at half of that price. Maybe 2/3 if it had a 350.
The Ford is priced to sell.
The Ford’s just more livable and a hell of a lot safer, no real contest.
The Ford’s just more livable and a hell of a lot safer, no real contest.
I see a squarebody, I click on it. However, I checked the actual add and yeah, it’s pretty rough. Still, 3K for a running, driving square 4X4 is not crazy. Literally every part of that truck is a mouse click away. If one is handy with a wrench and a welder, this is not a hard project. Parts are cheap and plentiful; marketplace is still full of parts for these trucks. The stepside bed in relatively good shape is a huge plus.
I actually like the Ford too. Great color, and I always thought this gen was sorta handsome in a weird way. It’s the right cab, so it’s got a bit more utility, and as far as I know the lil’ 4.6 won’t spit out it’s plugs. I like the round wheel openings on these, looks like you can fit a good-sized tire on it without too much effort. I saw a YT channel that bought one of these with rust and super high mileage, they beat the ever-loving snot out of it and could not kill it. I’m not a Ford guy but I was definitely impressed.
I see a squarebody, I click on it. However, I checked the actual add and yeah, it’s pretty rough. Still, 3K for a running, driving square 4X4 is not crazy. Literally every part of that truck is a mouse click away. If one is handy with a wrench and a welder, this is not a hard project. Parts are cheap and plentiful; marketplace is still full of parts for these trucks. The stepside bed in relatively good shape is a huge plus.
I actually like the Ford too. Great color, and I always thought this gen was sorta handsome in a weird way. It’s the right cab, so it’s got a bit more utility, and as far as I know the lil’ 4.6 won’t spit out it’s plugs. I like the round wheel openings on these, looks like you can fit a good-sized tire on it without too much effort. I saw a YT channel that bought one of these with rust and super high mileage, they beat the ever-loving snot out of it and could not kill it. I’m not a Ford guy but I was definitely impressed.
The Ford for me. That old Chevy will need a ton of work just for rust reasons alone. If it wasn’t so rusty, I would have voted for it.
And thus, I went with the Ford.
The Ford for me. That old Chevy will need a ton of work just for rust reasons alone. If it wasn’t so rusty, I would have voted for it.
And thus, I went with the Ford.
I don’t need either, but here are my $ 0.02.
The Chevy would look cool only after you spend good money on it, and will still be uncomfortable and inefficient. Just a nice poser truck if restored, and an annoyance if not.
The Ford is almost ready to work, and a good daily truck with some minor money (tires and heater).
But I’m really not a client, so…
I don’t need either, but here are my $ 0.02.
The Chevy would look cool only after you spend good money on it, and will still be uncomfortable and inefficient. Just a nice poser truck if restored, and an annoyance if not.
The Ford is almost ready to work, and a good daily truck with some minor money (tires and heater).
But I’m really not a client, so…
I’m torn between these two, mainly because I owned an 83 squarebody optioned pretty much the same sans the stepside. The rust is no joke, though, it’s just far too gone. Tires would also need replacement as they are BFG KO’s which were discontinued a decade ago.
Bottom line: Ford narrowly wins it for me. Bland design but it’s rust free, roomier and it’s as reliable as the Chevy. I’d hit my nearest Walmart for cheap tires and be all set.
If I had an extra $15K to blow on restoration the Chevy would be a nice project, though…
Exactly. The Chevy only makes sense after burning $15K on it.
I’m torn between these two, mainly because I owned an 83 squarebody optioned pretty much the same sans the stepside. The rust is no joke, though, it’s just far too gone. Tires would also need replacement as they are BFG KO’s which were discontinued a decade ago.
Bottom line: Ford narrowly wins it for me. Bland design but it’s rust free, roomier and it’s as reliable as the Chevy. I’d hit my nearest Walmart for cheap tires and be all set.
If I had an extra $15K to blow on restoration the Chevy would be a nice project, though…
Exactly. The Chevy only makes sense after burning $15K on it.
Voted Ford. I like a Chevy Stepside but the 50’s or early 60’s version and that one just needs some work and hopefully the bed is intact and won’t start falling off the frame.
The Ford is useful for what I’d need and I could use the extended cab. I don’t care about the jellybean style. I’d be using it to haul stuff not pick up groceries at Whole Foods while looking pretty.
Voted Ford. I like a Chevy Stepside but the 50’s or early 60’s version and that one just needs some work and hopefully the bed is intact and won’t start falling off the frame.
The Ford is useful for what I’d need and I could use the extended cab. I don’t care about the jellybean style. I’d be using it to haul stuff not pick up groceries at Whole Foods while looking pretty.
I prefer the style, but there’s just too much rust in the Chevy for me. And it’s not worth it to restore. I guess if the frame is good, you could patch the body and run it in primer grey. For the cost, the Ford will get my vote.
I prefer the style, but there’s just too much rust in the Chevy for me. And it’s not worth it to restore. I guess if the frame is good, you could patch the body and run it in primer grey. For the cost, the Ford will get my vote.
I’m just not the right person for the stepside. Though I wouldn’t mind having an ovals era F-150 hanging around. I’m one of the few people who love those. I’ll take the Ford.
I’m just not the right person for the stepside. Though I wouldn’t mind having an ovals era F-150 hanging around. I’m one of the few people who love those. I’ll take the Ford.
I voted Ford. Call me a wimp, but I’m not a truck guy, so if I’m driving a truck I want something a little gentler and refined.
I voted Ford. Call me a wimp, but I’m not a truck guy, so if I’m driving a truck I want something a little gentler and refined.
Anti-Jellybean squad here. I’ll take a rusty squarebody over a bag of jelly bellies anyday. And that’s coming from a MASSIVE fan of the 4.6. I just don’t like that era of f-150.
Anti-Jellybean squad here. I’ll take a rusty squarebody over a bag of jelly bellies anyday. And that’s coming from a MASSIVE fan of the 4.6. I just don’t like that era of f-150.
Ford. You can fix the bits, its much more difficult to fix rust….and that’s assuming the frame isn’t in the same condition as the body panels.
Ford. You can fix the bits, its much more difficult to fix rust….and that’s assuming the frame isn’t in the same condition as the body panels.