End Of An Era: Ram 1500 Pickup Truck No Longer Comes With A V8

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The Big Three engage in running battles across the automotive marketplace, but no fight is so vicious as the one for truck supremacy. The latest salvo to be fired is the release of the new 2025 Ram 1500, which includes more than just the Ram Ramcharger. Yes, the big truck Americans have grown to love is about to get a young upstart for a replacement. Strap in.

When it comes to the powertrain, let’s address the elephant in the room: the V8 is dead. The new Ram will instead rock a 3-liter turbocharged Hurricane straight-six, initially available in two states of tune. Buyers can choose from a 420-horsepower standard output model with 469 pound-feet of torque, and a 540-horsepower High Output model with 521 pound-feet of torque. Alternatively, it can also be had with the 3.6-liter Pentastar eTorque mild hybrid V6, with 305 horsepower and 269 pound-feet of torque.

Fans of America’s favorite cylinder layout will be heartbroken, but they needn’t be. Both engines are significantly more powerful than the current 5.7-liter Hemi V8, which offered just 395 horsepower at the crank. The old 5.7-liter Hemi may have been inefficient and may have used 16 spark plugs, but it will be missed. It was a proven thing; a well-developed engine that could be relied upon to deliver. It had a track record of racking up hundreds of thousands of miles without complaint, and excellent third-party parts support. By contrast, the Hurricane is a relative newcomer. It will need a few years to endear itself to the broader truckertariat.

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Ram specifically points out that to help put down the prodigious torque of the Hurricane High Output engine, it has developed a new rear axle setup. It will be available across 2WD and 4WD variants, it can be had with an open or limited-slip differential as desired. An electronic locking differential is also available, which will come in handy for situations demanding additional traction.

Beyond gasoline power, there will also be an all-electric variant called the Ram 1500 REV. It’s due in the fourth quarter of 2024, with the Ram 1500 Ramcharger series hybrid to follow.

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The 2025 Ram 1500 will also see the introduction of a new Tungsten trim that tops the range. It’s intended to offer an “ultra-premium” experience. Think suede headliners and visors, quilted leather driver and passenger seats, and plenty of brushed metal bezels in the interior. It also comes with an “ultra-premium” Klipsch Reference Premiere audio system with 23 speakers, surely a step above the regular “premium” audio systems available from other automakers.

In the third quarter of 2024, Ram will also launch something it’s calling the “RHO,” a half-ton truck powered with the 540-horsepower Hurricane engine. The high-performance trim aims to keep Ram in the running when it comes to big trucks with big power and big presence. Expect it to be a sort of spiritual successor to the TRX.

Rm025 046fnInside, the new model intends to be more technologically advanced than its predecessor. The infotainment system will run the Uconnect 5 software on a new 14.5-inch touchscreen. In a sign Ram has listened to customer feedback about slow interfaces, its setup to respond to touches as quickly as 0.05 seconds.  This will be paired with a 10.25-inch passenger screen in what Ram is calling a segment first, along with a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster. Other modern amenities include a digital rearview mirror, the ability to use a smart phone as a key, and dual wireless charging pads to keep your gear topped off on the go. A so-called Level 2+ driving assist will be available on the new model. Unlike some current systems, it will allow hands-free driving under suitable conditions.

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The V8 will be missed, but the Hurricane inline-sixes will offer plenty of torque for towing.

Fans of fancy mechanical features will appreciate the option of the power open and close tailgate. It’s set up with basic obstacle detection so ideally, it won’t just slam into things if you hit the button at the wrong time. A multi-function tailgate will also be available, along with lockable bed storage for those eager to keep their tools secure. An onboard power inverter, when equipped on Hurricane-engined models, will offer up to 1.8 kilowatts of power via two outlets in the bed.

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Fundamentally, it’s an update that sees the beloved Ram 1500 moving with the times. Many a tear will be shed over the loss of the V8, but it’s harder to miss when such capable inline-sixes are available. What remains to be seen is whether Ram’s marketing department can convince die-hard fans of the bent eight to come on a ride into the future. If the trucks are still fast and comfortable and tow like the dickens, it should be able to pull that off.

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  1. The big question with new Chrysler products is, how reliable is this new truck, and the new tech, going to be? They’ve had some huge swings and misses in the past. To be fair, every automaker has had at least one of those, but Dodge/Chrysler/Ram vehicles seem to have had more than just a few.

    23 speakers in the cab? I’d love to see the layout of this! Gotta wonder where they’re going to stuff all of those. Even more I’d love to hear this thing as I’d imagine it will be amazing.

    I hope it all works beautifully for them as it’s really bold and awesome on their part to take these steps.

  2. So 3.0 liters producing 540hp.
    That’s the same displacement and horsepower as a 2024 BMW M3 CS, but 40ft/lb more torque.
    It’s an absolutely astounding specific output for a truck engine, or even a sports car engine.
    That’s 180hp per liter.
    180hp is about how much power a 5 liter half ton pickup would make in the 90s.

    1. The trucks that made 180HP were extremely understressed, though. You can push the Ford Modular up to 540HP without changing the internals and the Dodge “Magnum” V8 that went in everything from the Ram to the Durango to the Grand Cherokee to forklifts regularly survives abuse from people doubling or even tripling it’s original output. The torque was the important number anyways, and was often times fifty percent higher than the horsepower. The 1992 F-150 made 185HP and 289 ft/lb, the Dodge Ram 1500 230/295, and the Chevrolet C/K 1500 175/270. This I6 is probably nearing it’s maximum tolerances and likely can’t be pushed much farther.

  3. Bought a new 1500 RAM Laramie 5.7etorque last year. Nice place to drive and burn up miles. Nice coil suspension and interior. Averaging about 19mpg mixed driving including idling .. I’m sure the 6 will be faster and tow a lot, but the lazy 5.7 is no slouch and drinks 87 octane without issue. Sounds good too with mild exhaust. Wonder what the 6 will do? I know the eco-boost trucks, drink gas unless you drive like a grandpa We’re gonna see.

    1. The V6 is likely significantly cheaper to produce than the inline, and it makes significantly less lower. There’s a reason it’s the “base” engine and the inline-6 is more expensive to pick.

      1. An I6 should technically be cheaper to produce because it has fewer parts. It has 1 head instead of 2, 2 cams instead of 4, etc.
        On the other hand, the V6 has far superior packaging and can be used in many vehicles with many different configurations, so the volume of V6 production would make it the cheaper option.

        1. That’s true, given the engines are of “equal” everything else. The Hurricane is a far more complex and engineered engine. It’s been designed to handle more power, be more reliable (supposedly), take turbos…

          Taken to the extreme, of course a inline 4-cylinder engine is supposed to be cheaper than a V8, but it’s obvious why something like a Merc M133 costs more than a basic build small block 350.

  4. “By contrast, the Hurricane is a relative newcomer. It will need a few years to endear itself to the broader truckertariat.”

    And there in lies the rub. the fact that they did not at least offer the hurricane in NA form a few years back to get people used to 6 in a row again and prove they had the proper engineers on the job makes this a much harder pill to swallow.

    1. The reason they didn’t offer it in NA form is because it’s a 3.0 liter engine built for midrange boost. Naturally aspirated it would make no more than 200hp, and nowadays people want 350 minimum in a fullsize pickup.

    1. hang a hair dryer on the outgoing 8 and then let’s talk. unless they offer an NA flow through head 6, it is not apples to apples and the added power from the power adders is generally though to reduce longevity and increase complexity for the future. not always the most adored sales situation. I will say Ford took many years and it seems to have proved the 3.5 ecoboost in the correct orientation anyway, is somewhat reliable, certainly more reliable than say the 5.4 triton before it, but is it all that much better than a coyote 5.0. I rarely hear much about those outside of the flat plane crank GT350 issues. But I hear plenty of issues with the nano v6’s the 2.7 and 3.0. that does not bode well and certainly makes big changes like this even more concerning at first.

  5. I’ve been eyballing a Ram 1500 for a little while now. One thing that bothers me is that their clutch-based transfer case design has a history of overheating in moderate off road situations. GM/Ford don’t seem to have (as much) of an issue with their clutch-based t-cases. Hopefully Ram figures this out for this refresh!

    Sure you could order a part-time case, but auto t cases are SO much better on slick/variable condition roads vs part-time.

    1. My wife and I have a ranch in Arizona in which we have to engage 4wd and drive with it in extreme mud/rock/wash terrain constantly. Our 2018 Ram 1500 has been bulletproof. Zero problems in 67,000 miles since new. I’ve even had to pull a tractor and my 98 Ram 1500 out of our 15′ deep muddy water catch reservoir, again, without issue and very much wear and tear on the transfer case and without a hiccup. I’d like to know where and how Dodge’s NV (although they are using other companies to build the NV designs now)transfer cases are failing. All the other farmers and ranchers around here own and use Rams, as well. We wouldn’t buy and trust unreliable equipment. And frankly, it’s why you’ll find damn few GMC/Chevy trucks in the field here. Ford is second most used and very reliable. Toyota/Nissan are city jokes and nowhere around here unless broken down on the side of the highway.

          1. Interesting. Well glad to see you haven’t experienced it, I’ve seen more videos about it on the 2019’s so not sure if it’s different.

    1. My exact same question. I suspect it is a typo – the 395/410 numbers quoted are the performance numbers for the the current *5.7 V8* eTorque powertrain. Lewin and/or editors, could we please get a clarification?

        1. the question really is why are they not removing the hair dryers on the Hurricane and connecting that to the E-Torque powertrain. surely if it make that kind of power with a power adder, it should be clean enough to make more than the pentastar without the turbos.

          1. I’d almost guarantee that the Hurricane without turbos is significantly more expensive than the Pentastar. The Hurricane has quite a few nifty features that were incorporated into it’s base design to improve reliability and power with turbos that can’t easily be removed. So you’d essentially be paying for these features but not utilizing them them and driving up costs – or – paying to redesign the engine without these features and driving up costs. So why spend the money to target performance you can already achieve with an existing product does it for cheaper? Not only that, the Pentastar is used elsewhere that cant easily be replaced with the I6 like on the Pacifica or Wrangler, so ditching the Pentastar on the Ram doesn’t mean you can entirely kill the product.

    1. The current one is down to just Tradesman and Warlock trims and there’s no announcement of a 2024 model on their media site, so seems like it may finally be time for the old one to retire. Doesn’t seem like they would keep it around with just the Pentastar.

      Not sure if the 2025 has quite enough different about it to keep the current one going as a new Classic, but also the current Classic starts several thousand less than a Chevy or Ford, while the “regular” is a little more. They may just be planning to cede that low end pricepoint, or perhaps a new smaller entry (Rampage?) will fill in there, like with GM/Ford which have had midsize trucks.

      1. You can still get a regular cab Classic, can’t get a regular cab (current generation style) 1500. So if the Classic is killed, so is the regular cab half-ton from Ram.

        1. And it seems unlikely they’d introduce one at this point if they haven’t already. I wonder what the fleet mix is for Ram as that’s a bigger driver of the regular cabs, which Ford and GM still offer; but, they’ve also nixed other cab styles in their midsizers, so figure it’s bound to start happening in full-sizers too.
          (Sure, Tundra dropped a regular cab but that doesn’t have the volume to make it quite comparable.)

          1. I doubt they will. That being said, isn’t the cab on the 1500 the same as the 2500 and 3500? It’s hard to keep straight what years the Big 3 are like, “We are going to save money and share cabs!” vs when the marketing team wins out and are like, “Unique cabs for the heavy dutys!”

                    1. I honestly don’t know that. They sure look similar but I’m not positive that they’re identical.

  6. Metals are overused as trim levels, F150 Platinum, Ram 1500 Tungsten, various other vehicle platinum trims. An automaker needs be be bold and use Noble Gasses as trim levels. I would drive a Chevy Silverado 1500 Argon or a Kia Rio Xenon.

      1. I think He is a top notch noble gas. For one, it is rare on Earth (not rare in the rest of the universe) and liquid helium is cold A.F. (4 Kelvins or so). They use it to cool the magnets in MRI’s and NMR’s among other things.

    1. I prefer using names of radioactive elements:

      Introducing the new VW Polonium 208! Now with a 1 year bumper to bumper warranty*

      *The very fine print: The all new VW Po-208 has a half life of 2.8 years from date of manufacture at which point half of all vehicles will have spontaneously exploded very literally as an atomic bomb.

              1. This gets me thinking, they could have thrown that at the T1000 Terminator. Turn that bugger into an amalgam! I have thoroughly enjoyed this exchange BTW.

  7. Six in a row, ready to tow.

    My wife and I talked about this. It’s a good thing. This keeps the V8 in the 2500 and higher models, where it belongs. The people who really need the capabilities of a V8 will get them, along with a truck built with the components for that type of use. This in turn makes the 1500 a “tradesman and layman’s” truck, suited for light work and recreational applications.

      1. in the case of ford, this logic was used as well, but the reality is the Ecoboost 6 really sucks more fuel than a basic 5.0 with less HP if used as a truck hauling things like boats or really anything.

      2. I think it’s more about serviceability and longevity with HDs, not necessarily outright ooomph. Maybe that is their point? Keep the simpler V8s in the HD range where running cost and uptime takes precedent over peak power and 0-60 times. Fords are a good example of this with the highly-strung ecoboosts in the half-ton categories and the simple OHV Godzilla in the HD range.

  8. It’s actually surprising that the 5.7 lasted this long. I have a 2021 RAM. They did a lot to it over the years and the eTorque really made it into about as efficient and smooth of an drivetrain as it probably ever could be. I can get about 18mpg in my surface street suburb commute. It gets about 11-12 towing my 5000 pound trailer. Where I’ve never seen great performance is at 70mph on the interstate. It seems to top out at about 21mpg. I’ll miss the great sound of the 5.7, but I’m light on the throttle most of the time, so I don’t hear it often.

    I’ll do a RAMcharger next anyway, so it doesn’t really matter to me.

    I’m surprised they are doing another top trim though. I have a Limited and it’s already very much at a luxury car interior level. I jumped to that trim primarily for the advanced towing features, extra safety stuff, adaptive cruise, and the the air-ride. It was also the horrible shortage of vehicles in 2021, so options were very limited. The Limited Longhorn is essentially another top trim, but with more of a “King Ranch” or “High Country” feel. So now they will have 3 top trims, or an even higher trim above the other 2.

    1. They first had Tungsten a few years back, it’s above Limited.

      Ford: King Ranch < Platinum < Limited

      Ram: Longhorn < Limited < Tungsten

      GM: High Country < Denali < Denali Ultimate

      1. Trim level names make no sense. I suspect it’s because if it was obvious where it fell in the hierarchy, sales and marketing would be worried people wouldn’t want to buy the “Delta” being that it’s so obvious it falls below the “Gamma,” which falls below the “Beta,” which falls below the “Alpha.” Though, Hummer did have the Alpha trim for a while.

        Rather, we get trim names that are all roughly synonyms; how the fuck is one supposed to know that Deluxe is better than Premium but worse than Limited. And that’s before you even start realizing that “Lariat” is just another word for Lasso, so what the fuck does that even mean when it comes to trim?

          1. Hasn’t the Limited, or Platinum, trim also appeared and disappeared a few times too to further confuse things? Like one year Limited is the top dog, then the top trim is actually Platinum since Limited isn’t available? But now Limited is back?

            1. Yes, this happened with Super Duty at least, Limited was not available in 2017 when the new generation came out, so Platinum was top.

              The same might be true for F150 as well, but I don’t follow the half tons as closely.

  9. Pretty sure Lee Iaccoca already proclaimed the end of the V8 in like 1983 (building
    “sports cars” and “luxury cars” with turbo V6s and I4s so powerful, so efficient, no one will ever want to go back to a V8 again, sure), but, I guess, it probably really is happening now – only 10ish years left of ICE production anyway, so its like 1 or 2 product cycles remaining, decisions made now will hold to the end, and the performance really is truly equally or surpassing V8 levels not just approximating them.

  10. I think it will be easier to sell an inline 6 to former v8 customers than a v6 given the history of great inline 6 engines from all makes. That configuration has had great success in heavy duty and off road equipment markets. But if the Hurricane’s prove unreliable its going to be a hard sell to anyone.

    1. Considering the Pentastar exhaust outlet shapes at the collector, I am kind of suprised they did not try the turbos on that motor a few years ago to offer and prove the idea before going clean sheet and hoping nobody suspects the quality of a US workforce under a French/italian governing group would be suspect at all.

      1. It’s reportedly set-up for boost, but the main reason it’s likely never gotten a boosted application, for CDJR, is that it’s already got a special boosted version: the Maserati F160. Maserati & Ferrari were given a chance to turn the Pentastar into a turbo engine. The blocks are actually still built on one of the Pentastar assembly lines.
        The best they managed was 99 extra horsepower with 2 turbos. If they couldn’t make more power with a much higher budget, the engineers in Auburn Hills likely couldn’t do it with a smaller budget.

        1. the twin and single variants were supposed to make 370 and 420 way back in 2015. that would certainly be more competitive to the EcoBoost 3.5 if that was to be a thing, the 420 number would have been better than any 5.7 before or after that year, and the 370 would have been pretty close most of the time. given the 8 plus years to better develop since 2015, it seems off that they did not at least put their toes into the optional turbo V6 water a while back, especially in the Jeeps.

          1. Maserati/Ferrari got 325-424hp out of the Pentastar design.
            Maybe Jeep could’ve used it, but Maserati/Ferrari had much more money and development into the engine and that’s the best they could do.
            It just isn’t strong enough. Probably would need a complete overhaul, likely change the block and whatnot.

            1. I would almost suspect the high rpm preferences of those marks might have been the big deal there. Also maybe the fear of getting labeled a Chrysler by using that engine design. I have seen the Maserati’s with the 3.6 engine. it is not often the downfall of quattroporte’s as much as everything else, but certainly the motor could have ben used in Rams a long time ago to cover some of the development cost on the money makers.

    2. Agree. Not to mention that the Pentastar is a car engine. The torque to hp ratio is a major tell. The Hurricane was designed as a truck motor from the start.

      1. Torque to hp ratio is determined exclusively by power and torque peak rpms, if you didn’t know.

        But yes engines that don’t have to rev to 6k to make some torque generally don’t do as well in heavier hauling service.

        1. Yup. My That sounded dumb. Power/torque PROFILE is what I meant. That Pentastar and the GM 3.6 in the Colorado are what come to mind versus the 4.3 in the Silverado..

  11. Do these Hurricane engines take regular fuel or do they require 89 or higher octane? These things aren’t really talked about with pieces like this and I feel like it’s probably an important question given the turbo’d future we are entering.

    1. My uninformed guess is that the low output engine will be fine on 87 and the high output may want premium to get that output.

      This is the way Ford does it with the regular 3.5 vs the Raptor tune.

      1. Even then, the lower tune versions may run on 87, but not necessarily well.

        About 10 years ago I worked with someone who bought a Ford Flex with the 3.5L EcoBoost, and I asked if he ran more than basic fuel. He said he didn’t, but his fuel economy was utter garbage. I suggested he put in 93 and indicated he’d likely notice a difference.

        He noticed a 7.5mpg boost and it felt a lot brisker. He talked to the dealer and they said it’ll run on 87, but pull timing like crazy. Not only was the fuel economy better, but he likely regained about 70-80 horsepower lost from the engine management nerfing things to safely run on 87. Plus despite the $1/gallon difference between octanes, the cost was a wash from the big fuel economy bump.

        I’m sure the engine management and tunes have improved further as turbos have become more common, but for me, turbo always means you should run a higher octane.

        1. I had to fuel up my WRX on the PA turnpike and the reststop was out of premium. I put in the minimum amount of 87 octane to get to my destination and as soon as I got there filled it up with 91. I didn’t notice MUCH of a difference but I probably had about 1/4 tank of 91 filled to 1/2 with 91, so it was about 89 octane.

          1. I’ve noticed some of my vehicles are “Premium recommended” vs “Premium required”. I’d do what you did if I was driving the former, and I’d drive to the next station or call a tow truck if the latter.

            Of course, we also have 93 readily available here, so a *bit* of dilution probably still keeps the mix above 91.

            1. Yeah, the WRX is fairly modern and can pull timing to accommodate lower quality gas. The good thing is that I was just cruising on the turnpike at 70 so I wasn’t running the engine hard.

              There’s one place near me that has 94, which you don’t see very often. Kind of out of my way now, but I used to fill up there fairly regularly

            2. For the most part you can run even a “premium required” engine on regular fuel if you take it easy. Knock is only an issue at higher cylinder pressures, and you can limit cylinder pressure with your right foot.

        2. My folks have owned like three or four different EcoBoost F150s and octane rating hasn’t made a lick of difference for them when it comes to fuel economy. These are just old farts that largely drive like old farts though.

        3. My Mazda turbo gets the exact same fuel economy regardless of fuel type. Per Mazda, there isn’t any power difference until you’re above something like 3500 or 4k RPM. Most cars that say you can run both are similar too, power differences aren’t noticeable at lower RPMs because it doesn’t need to pull timing until it gets to higher RPMs.

    2. Great point that did not come to mind in this instance (though for a while it was a concern of mine with various other vehicles).

      Personally if I’m buying a new automobile it’ll be a BEV, too bad I don’t like any of the ones currently on the market in the US nor any of the ones that’ll be on the market in the near future (so far).

      I got till 2026 to find one.

  12. How many REBEL badges are on the 2025 Ram 1500 Rebel?
    Did the badge designer stay up at the midnight hour, screaming, “More, More, MORE!!!!!”

  13. The higher you climb on the trim sheet, the more and more it looks like a truck from a children’s show. Something about the defined nose and flat shapes just looks so average…

  14. Looks good and I’m not as bummed about the Hemi as I might have thought.

    Simple V8s will presumably be available in the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks for some time to come yet, so using the 1/2 ton as experimental ground for I6, plug in hybrid, etc makes a ton of sense. Those buyers are less traditional and more fuel economy focused if I had to guess.

    I expect an ad campaign to tie the I6 layout in this truck to the Cummins in the HDs, if not a semi. “That Thing Got a Hemi” for the 2020s.

  15. I have always found it interesting that people in Eurasia, can get by in their daily lives with meager 4 cylinder engines! How sad must their lives not be.

  16. This is honestly a good looking truck—and it’s not got the aggressive cast I’ve come to expect from full-sized rigs these days. We live in good times when the base straight6 has 420 hp: that’s in no way a penalty engine.

    1. Obviously it’s not the penalty engine; it’s the optional choice; the step up; the upper trim; the…

      The penalty engine is the V6, which isn’t a bad engine, it’s just certainly not as powerful.

      1. The thing is that even the V6 makes almost 400hp and 400 torques (although probably a 100 of each less when the battery drains). Probably enough power for most people.

        I remember when my 1999 Expedition with the 5.4 (the top engine) made 260hp and 350 torques.

    2. I noticed the re-styling as well. It’s going back to the more honest, less over-wrought look of the 2nd- and 3rd-Gen trucks and I definitely appreciate that as somebody who keeps a grimy old 2nd-gen Cummins-powered 2500 in the driveway.

      If I were in the market for a new truck, I’d be all over the straight-six power. I drive a diesel straight-six now with the Cummins, and my favorite truck from before was an ’83 Ford with the 300 straight six. Inline sixes have the grunt you need in a truck to get a load moving or to haul stuff up heavy grades without having to rev the hell out of the engine.

      1. I love the smoothness & torque of a straight6. Now that we have fuel injection to even out the fuel delivery, there’s no real downside (in my use case: I don’t race or tow)

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