An unfortunate truth for Italian cars in America is that unless equipped with prancing horse emblems, they’ll probably depreciate catastrophically. For instance, the Fiat 500L people mover isn’t known for its tremendous resale value. However, there are a few outside-the-box ways of potentially fixing that. Like, what if the Pope rode in it?
Yep, His Holiness Pope Francis rode in this car on American soil back in 2015, and it was kept by the Archdiocese of New York until 2016 when it was auctioned off for charity. Last weekend, it was auctioned off again as part of the “Dare to Dream” collection, amid all manner of stereotypical exotica.
In case you banished the 500L to the same memory hole normally reserved for incidents like walking in on your parents, allow me to give you a refresher. Think of this thing a bit like a Fiat 500 run through Rick Moranis’ growth ray. It’s actually based on the larger Compact Wide platform shared with the current Dodge Hornet, a DNA link that’s both weird and yet entirely on-brand. If there’s one automaker capable of re-using the same platform across multiple model cycles, it’s Stellantis.
Sold in America from model years 2014 through 2020, the 500L was widely mocked, albeit perhaps not entirely deservedly. Alright, so the available dry-clutch DCT wasn’t brilliant, but did Car And Driver have to call the 500L a “five-door mop bucket”? It’s at least a jelly mold, or the faceplate for one of those fancy-ass motion-sensing air fresheners.
For what it’s worth, you could sidestep the DCT by choosing to row your own gears (this one, sadly, isn’t equipped with a manual) or by waiting a few months after launch for the Aisin six-speed torque converter automatic to show up, and then the 500L is a practical, capacious monobox with a cute squircle-themed interior. The squircle’s the spork of shapes, and just as endearing. Sure, the 160-horsepower 1.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine felt strained once you loaded the 500L up with family members and their things, but for urban transport, it hit the nail on the head.
Anyway, refresher over, let’s talk a little bit more about this particular 500L. Not only was it auctioned off by R.M. Sotheby’s, it was even shown off with a replica Pope installed in the rear seat. Think of the things you could do with a replica Pope! No, not like that. Or maybe. I don’t know, you do you. At the same time, with fewer than 800 miles on the clock, it’s basically new. Combined with the papal provenance, that was enough to fetch $28,000. That’s only a few thousand shy of beating inflation!
The craziest part of all this? A nearly new Fiat 500L with papal provenance is only about $7,000 more expensive than a nice 2020 500L Trekking. Specifically, this 500L Trekking, listed on Autotrader for $20,895 with 56,475 miles on the clock. How much of that value add is the replica Pope? How much is mileage? Who knows. Either way, that’s still substantially cheaper than a new Fiat 500e, and that one hasn’t been on “Pope or No Pope” yet. I think.
While celebrity provenance can add value to collector cars, this sort of provenance on this sort of car clearly yields limited results. It is what it is, but who knows? Maybe this 500L will be mega-collectable someday.
(Photo credits: RM Sotheby’s)
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With this Fiat, you’re taking a real bath financially
Not papal investment grade like this is
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1270591288/pope-on-a-rope-soap-bubbletown-novelty
With this Fiat, you’re taking a real bath financially
Not papal investment grade like this is
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1270591288/pope-on-a-rope-soap-bubbletown-novelty
I have a soft spot for the L. In green with the brown interior, ideally, but there’s a other spec with a light interior that – to me, having never been to Italy nor skiing – seemed like it was reminiscent of an Italian ski lodge. I appreciated its airy cabin and sizeable greenhouse. But the front end leaves a lot to be desired, and they didn’t offer an Abarth version here.
I have a soft spot for the L. In green with the brown interior, ideally, but there’s a other spec with a light interior that – to me, having never been to Italy nor skiing – seemed like it was reminiscent of an Italian ski lodge. I appreciated its airy cabin and sizeable greenhouse. But the front end leaves a lot to be desired, and they didn’t offer an Abarth version here.
I have a 2016 500L Trekking with a manual transmission and it is an excellent car!
The Abarth spec turbo engine is rev happy and entertaining, the suspension tuning is near perfect, the interior is attractive, it has room for 4 large adults, and the full length glass sunroof fantastic. Despite being FWD, driving it reminds of my long ago BMW E30 (upright seating position, lots of glass, firm but not stiff ride, engine that loves revs, small outside – big inside). Mine also feels similarly solid and stable on the road, although it does lack that near perfect E30 steering feel.
The base model rental spec car is pretty awful, but the Trekking is a huge step up. The interior is genuinely nice, the suspension stiffer, and with the 17″ wheels the handling is direct and predictable with tons of grip. The DCT automatic is god awful, incredibly troublesome, and must be avoided at all cost, but the 6 speed manual is decent, and it lets you keep the sweet revvy turbo engine in its 3-6k rpm sweet spot.
Calling it the 500L and trying to turn “500” into a brand was incredibly stupid, and launching it in the US with an automatic transmission that worked poorly and failed in American traffic even stupider. I once viewed the 500L with the same disdain shown by many of the commenters here, but after test driving (on a whim) the one I now own, I realized that in the right spec these are special cars and great fun to drive.
I have a 2016 500L Trekking with a manual transmission and it is an excellent car!
The Abarth spec turbo engine is rev happy and entertaining, the suspension tuning is near perfect, the interior is attractive, it has room for 4 large adults, and the full length glass sunroof fantastic. Despite being FWD, driving it reminds of my long ago BMW E30 (upright seating position, lots of glass, firm but not stiff ride, engine that loves revs, small outside – big inside). Mine also feels similarly solid and stable on the road, although it does lack that near perfect E30 steering feel.
The base model rental spec car is pretty awful, but the Trekking is a huge step up. The interior is genuinely nice, the suspension stiffer, and with the 17″ wheels the handling is direct and predictable with tons of grip. The DCT automatic is god awful, incredibly troublesome, and must be avoided at all cost, but the 6 speed manual is decent, and it lets you keep the sweet revvy turbo engine in its 3-6k rpm sweet spot.
Calling it the 500L and trying to turn “500” into a brand was incredibly stupid, and launching it in the US with an automatic transmission that worked poorly and failed in American traffic even stupider. I once viewed the 500L with the same disdain shown by many of the commenters here, but after test driving (on a whim) the one I now own, I realized that in the right spec these are special cars and great fun to drive.
While I grew up with stories of quirky European city cars, helping me build an appreciation for them, I can’t understand why anyone in the USA would buy a 500L. I at least sort of get the regular 500 (especially in Abarth trim) and maybe the 500X (though I think the Jeep Renegade is a far superior version of it), but the 500L is ugly and doesn’t do anything better than its competition except be awkwardly proportioned and ugly. For tight European roads, I can see the value. But for wide American roads, even in large, congested cities, there are better options for the money.
Trust me, we think the 500L is shit on this side of the pond, too. How it ever got to America I do not understand.
I had the misfortune to be given one by Avis once in Barcelona as an ‘upgrade’ on the ‘Ford Fiesta or similar’ that I’d booked. Thankfully, it stank of cigarettes, so I walked straight back to the rental counter and insisted on having something else, and got given an Audi A1, which is an actually decent little car. The prospect of having to drive a 500L for a week was going to ruin my holiday…
While I grew up with stories of quirky European city cars, helping me build an appreciation for them, I can’t understand why anyone in the USA would buy a 500L. I at least sort of get the regular 500 (especially in Abarth trim) and maybe the 500X (though I think the Jeep Renegade is a far superior version of it), but the 500L is ugly and doesn’t do anything better than its competition except be awkwardly proportioned and ugly. For tight European roads, I can see the value. But for wide American roads, even in large, congested cities, there are better options for the money.
Trust me, we think the 500L is shit on this side of the pond, too. How it ever got to America I do not understand.
I had the misfortune to be given one by Avis once in Barcelona as an ‘upgrade’ on the ‘Ford Fiesta or similar’ that I’d booked. Thankfully, it stank of cigarettes, so I walked straight back to the rental counter and insisted on having something else, and got given an Audi A1, which is an actually decent little car. The prospect of having to drive a 500L for a week was going to ruin my holiday…
I’m not sure papal provenance adds much tbh, unless it’s his personal vehicle. If I’m not mistaken, Benedict xvi had a mk4 Golf (German pope, checks out) and Francis also was of modest means. I can’t remember what he drove, I just remember it was a small cheap econobox, which fits the character’s narrative of being “close to the people”.
Anyway, about actual popemobiles that served in duty, I don’t think they are worth that much as there would be quite a few with every visit (albeit with age he limits his travels). A couple summers ago when he came to Canada (2nd papal visit after J-P ii in 84?) I remember reading a bunch of articles that detailed his different popemobiles across the country (he made a few stops in this vast land, including in my city). Each vehicle might have been used once or maybe twice, for a few km of hand waving? Unless tied to a significant event, I doubt they would ever fetch much more than an equally mint vehicle.
While on the topic, I went to see his drive-by-and-wave public bath (he is by definition a historical figure) and I was even an arm’s length from his bodyguards, so two arm’s lengths from a popemobile being used by the pope LIVE! (lol) For the record, it was a modified Jeep Wrangler with a huge bulletproof “COVID shield”
Yeah unless it decked out with the papal seal and custom white and gold color options it isn’t there for interest
I’m not sure papal provenance adds much tbh, unless it’s his personal vehicle. If I’m not mistaken, Benedict xvi had a mk4 Golf (German pope, checks out) and Francis also was of modest means. I can’t remember what he drove, I just remember it was a small cheap econobox, which fits the character’s narrative of being “close to the people”.
Anyway, about actual popemobiles that served in duty, I don’t think they are worth that much as there would be quite a few with every visit (albeit with age he limits his travels). A couple summers ago when he came to Canada (2nd papal visit after J-P ii in 84?) I remember reading a bunch of articles that detailed his different popemobiles across the country (he made a few stops in this vast land, including in my city). Each vehicle might have been used once or maybe twice, for a few km of hand waving? Unless tied to a significant event, I doubt they would ever fetch much more than an equally mint vehicle.
While on the topic, I went to see his drive-by-and-wave public bath (he is by definition a historical figure) and I was even an arm’s length from his bodyguards, so two arm’s lengths from a popemobile being used by the pope LIVE! (lol) For the record, it was a modified Jeep Wrangler with a huge bulletproof “COVID shield”
Yeah unless it decked out with the papal seal and custom white and gold color options it isn’t there for interest
I always thought these would be perfectly sized for city taxis