The very optimistically-named Cybertruck Owners’ Club recently published some interesting and, what the hell, even amusing pictures of a pair of pre-production Cybertrucks, one of which was having what appears to be a Ford F-150 wrap installed on it. Why the Cybertruck was being dressed for some F-150 cosplay isn’t yet clear, but is clear, or at least a bit clearer than I think has been seen before, is an inside look at the Cybertruck’s frunk area. In these shots, the frunk appears unfinished, at least if it is intended to be used to actually store anything, since there is no inner liner of any sort, and all that can really be seen is a lot of the thermal management hardware used by the Cybertruck. Let’s take a closer look.
The pictures also showed up in a number of Tweets (are they still called that?) including this one:
I am…. Confused. But enjoy this shot. @elonmusk troll level 69420
Cybertruck wrapped like an ICE F150 with its hood up. 🥸 pic.twitter.com/MQGXU0GmLD
— Greggertruck (@greggertruck) July 23, 2023
That’s a pretty good-looking F-150 wrap, too; I bet everybody is going to be grabbing fecklessly at those fake door handles.
Look at the round wheel arches over the Cybertruck’s angled ones in that pciture! And how much headroom you give up in the Cybertruck! If we overlay the Cybertruck upper body lines over the Ford F-150 Lightning, the differences become more clear:
I get that the Cybertruck’s big appeal to many people is how radically different it looks, but if Tesla was trying to troll Ford with this wrap, all they really seem to be doing is reminding everyone that there’s a lot less headroom, especially at the rear.
But let’s look closer at the inside of that frunk:
Can we get in any closer? Computer! Zoom and enhance!
Okay, let’s see here: we have a space much wider than deep, heavily encroached by the large wheel wells in there as well as all of that likely HVAC/thermal management hardware. Based on these views, it looks like only about half the floor area would be available for storage use, essentially from the leading edge of the wheel wells forward. If there was a sort of frunk tub/liner in place, I think you’d have a decent area to store a few things, maybe around the size of two airline carry-on bags, placed side-by-side? Maybe a bit more? It doesn’t look like a huge area, certainly nowhere near what the Ford F-150 Lightning trunk has, as Ford shows us in this publicity image:
In this shot, it looks like just the free trunk area in the F-150 Lightning, ahead of all the stuff already crammed in there in that picture, may be similar to what the whole Cybertruck trunk offers? Let’s look side-by side:
Of course, the Cybertruck frunk doesn’t look finished, and I don’t think this is a production-final design. It’s possible there could be a lot of re-packaging that will happen prior to production that would change this. I think it would be wise for Tesla to do all they can to carve a usable frunk out of this area; it’s a big selling point for Ford, having lockable, dry storage, the sort of thing that people used to use aftermarket in-bed toolboxes for.
Also, are the main forward lights integrated into the hood? There seem to be indicators and DRLs in the lip above the bumper, but I don’t think those are the main headlamps.
I’m curious to know more about what’s going on here, and to eventually see what the production frunk looks like. I can be patient, though. We’ve been waiting since 2019 as it is, anyway.
This thing isn’t even out and it hasn’t aged well.
On the lights note, I’m going to laugh when the main light bar is for looks and turn indicators and actual lights are on the bumper below….
Nah, I hear those have been integrated to the infotainment system. It’s Elon’s next big strike against stuck-up old guard car makers. It’s called TESLAVISION and will not only save on cost and weight by omitting standard lighting, but also offer a free religious experience almost like meeting Elon himself, when you turn on the TESLAVISION and flood your car’s interior with ten thousand lumens of innovation.
Good luck turning it off through the touchscreen once you’re blind though.
Where is the ground clearance gone ???
This is what happens when Elon is given too much latitude. With his handlers, we got good (if flawed) vehicles like the Model S. As he’s exerted more direct influence, we get things like the Roadster 2.0, the yoke, and the CyberTruck. All of these things have silly and arbitrary changes all for the sake of claiming false innovation.
It’s embarrassing that they spent time designing and applying that stupid wrap when their truck isn’t even available for sale. To accomplish what? As much as he tries, Musk doesn’t have a funny bone in his body.
I’m guessing it’s road test camouflage.
It’s great that Tesla found the golden ticket to electric cars with their innovative battery and drivetrain systems all those years ago. Then they followed it up with their great charging network. All they had to do next was make steady improvements to those designs and release new models of varying size and form factor while trying not to break the mold. But Elon’s silly whims must be satisfied and great innovator Elon wants to call it self driving even if it’s not, wants to reinvent the door, reinvent the interior, reinvent the dash, reinvent the steering wheel, reinvent the pickup truck and put an X on everything. Now Tesla produces gimmicks and relies on their weird cult to convince everyone they’re being innovative. This crap is turning people off, even people (like myself) who held that initial Model S in the highest regard. We don’t want Back to the Future doors or Knight Rider steering wheels or pickup trucks that look like part of an industrial rooftop ventilation system, we just want good honest cars.
As far as the headroom argument goes – the passengers are going to sit significantly further forward in the Cybertruck cab compared to the to the Lightning. So the rear seats aren’t going to have the roof chopped over their head quite like your graphic would lead us to believe. I’d be surprised if their isn’t a bunch of behind the seat storage inside the Cybertruck as well – which honestly is probably better than the frunk in most use cases anyways.
So they have headroom but no leg room?
Move the seat back for the Headless Horseman, move it forward for Lieutenant Dan.
they have legroom because the legs go where the frunk space would be, if it existed.
really, i was just saying that the Lightning seems to try and carry over the same proportions as the ICE version, which means a big unused engine bay. The Cybertruck takes a different approach, and most of what would be the engine bay is given to the passengers inside the car instead. How big of a frunk do people actually need anyways? It’s a truck… if i’m carrying big boxes and coolers i’m putting them in the bed anyways. The smaller frunk looks more than adequate for even a large load of groceries.
The Lightning does that to share parts with the gas trucks, and therefore have a massive economy of scale advantage
It’s not carrying over the same proportions, it’s just plain using the same body. The only difference is the front fascia and tailgate, and the Mustang Mach-E tablet in the interior.
How is storage behind the rear seats more convenient than a frunk? Seems a frunk would be much easier access.
Like i said in my other reply…. how much frunk space do you think you actually need? The pictured cyber-frunk looks more than adequate for groceries and stuff – and anything bigger than that should probably go in the bed anyways. And if needs to be ‘lock-able’ — it still is looking like the cybertruck will have the lockable bed cover built in – which is probably a better space for your coolers, generator, and plastic totes anyways. (like what’s pictured in the F150 frunk)
Of all the reasons to hate on the cybertruck, the lack of an over-sized giant frunk doesn’t seem like where I’d start, at least.
Well the cyber-truck will never have tools in it’s frunk or bed
“Well the cyber-truck will never have tools in it’s frunk or bed”
Well now that you said that, when it comes out, I’m gonna go to a Tesla store with a hammer to place in the frunk and trunk… JUST TO PROVE YOU WRONG!!!!
/jk
Hammer time! (To the windows)
Once all the electrical gubbins under the hood has all the covers and things on it, I don’t think there’s gonna be much space (if any) for a significant amount of stuff.
Cyber-frunk? Let me go throw up then get in the Delorean to go back to the 1800’s Wild West like Doc Brown so I don’t have to hear about all this stupid junk anymore…either I was born in the wrong century or I’m REALLY a time traveler…think about that, & take your pick!
So driver legs go forward…isn’t the problem of COE designs because the front crumple area is where people parts end up? And as a truck owner, I like the frunk idea. Typically there is already a good amount of storage space ender the rear seats and behind them depending on truck.
Looking at where the rear door lands, I find that assumption suspect. Given the division of the doors behind the peak of the pickup, it would appear that headroom is sacrificed, unless only a fairly small portion of the door is used for passenger entry. (And the driver’s seat should be at that peak, which makes sense. The back seat needs to be far enough back to allow that.)
There is, of course, the question of how tall the cabin is overall. If it’s tall enough and/or the floor is low enough, that might not be a big deal.
Looks better as a F-150.
That frunk looks VERY inefficient.
The front wheel arch…. hex or round. Make a fucking decision!
In a way I think that the Cybertruck’s frunk is better even though it is smaller. For one you likely have much better forward visibility than you do with the Cybertruck due to the slant of the frunk and secondly the space up front where the frunk would go appears to be a good foot or two wider than the Lightning’s frunk in the very front which would be great for those long but narrow things, and if Tesla produces all of the Cybertrucks with the roll up rear bed cover then you already have all the covered storage one could want.
Also I’m surprised you didn’t remark about the Lightning’s lack of ground clearance, it hardly has any with how large of a battery they stuffed into it and how much they lowered the ground clearance, it’s so bad that it bottoms out on the most mild of logging roads.
The Cybertruck looks to have tons of ground clearance and with the air suspension that’ll almost certainly be standard it could very well have more than double the ground clearance of the Lightning.
I know you are a cybertruck simp, but come on, there is barely more ground clearance than a model S on that thing. And you should know that the higher position of an air suspension is not made to be driven with.
Ever driven a Land Rover LR3? It has a max air suspension height for low speed off-roading. I think it is highly likely the Cybertruck will have the same thing (although likely without a toggle switch sadly)
If liking ground clearance and visibility makes me a simp you got a lot more simps to call out in the comments sections of this website, I expect you to do your duty Sir anti visibilty and ground clearance.
If anybody needs proof about you being a simp, they just have to look at your comments history…
How about you be specific as to what I’m a simp for. I genuinely want to know what you think I’m a simp for.
Thanks, Stan. All those hardcore offroaders are going to really love that extra 0.75″ of clearance in their Tesla. Way to put Torch in his place. Ground clearance in this thing is going to matter as much as it does on all the lifted Jeeps in my neighborhood. Translation: they will never leave a paved road.
You could have just said “It may give better visibility, and you already have a ton of covered storage in the back. No big deal.” See? Point made in two sentences. Without any “Well actually Torch, you didn’t talk about the bullet proof windows and the innovation and really you need to blah blah blah….”
Never talked about “hardcore offroaders”
Never mentioned the windows or any sort of “innovation”.
The only air suspension worth having is on independent suspension so that it is height adjustable and it actually increases your ground clearance unlikely solid axle rigs where your axles remain at the same height no matter how high your body gets. Land Rover did it right with the LR3 and LR4 years ago so it’s not really innovative in any way.
Besides maybe the A pillars it would take a massive cockup to have worse forward visibility in the Cybertruck than the Lightning, modern F-150s have terrible forward visibility.
Oh god ! What a stupid.
Wow, this is just pathetic. There’s no room in there at all.
And headlights IN the hood? Given the body panel misalignment problems that still exist at Tesla, I can only imagine how few properly aimed headlights there will be on Cybertrucks.
Every publicly shown iteration has been progressively worse and worse. The solutions I’ve seen them come up with to solve for the initial weirdnesses have all been bad ones.
I was a big fan at announcement time, and I put a deposit down. But I got my refund about two years ago.
Not sure what they’re gonna do for headlights, but they better have it figured out by now.
Headlight misalignment is less of an issue than NHTSAs ban on lights attached to movable body panels.
Regulations? Trailblazers like Elon* don’t need no stinkin regulations!
* not chevys
Is that light bar supposed to be the headlights for this thing? Can a bar like that be aimed and provide sufficient road illumination? I’m confused.
The F150 wrap just makes it look like an F150 that has been a rollover.
Just imagine how many “X” symbols you can fit in that thing!
This wrap almost seems like something Ford would do themselves in a commercial targeting the Cybertruck, if its trolling by Tesla, its going to be about as effective as GM mocking Ford’s folding tailgate step feature (which resulted in a spike of orders for the previously underappreciated option). A basic rule of advertising really should be to not intentionally point out superior features of your competition.
I think it’s adorable that it wants to dress up as an something that has actually been made. Hang in there Cyber Truck, we know you can do it!
Absolutely fascinated to see what happens with this monstrosity.
Yep, like a slow motion traffic accident. Should I look away? Is it impolite to stare? To laugh derisively?
Maybe the Cybertruck IS an F150 wearing a Cybertruck wrap.
Why are all the pictures taken from 20 feet away or surrounded by well placed, supposed “factory workers”?
Think about it..
(Insert coast to coast thunderclap here)
Frunkadunk.
If it’s that jammed up with stuff, then it’s no longer a frunk, it’s an equipment bay.
Maintenance Entryway Hatch.
MEH.
Sweet! The “Holy Grail” of EV trucks! The mythical: Cyber-F-150!
It was long thought that Elon launched it into space, or perhaps a volcano due to a disagreement over how a truck “should” look. It has only been seen once on the Elon owned Twitter sight,Incredibility the photo slipped though his wall of security and was reviled to the internet for the world “must” know of the Cyber-F-150!
Will it be built? It was hoped to be out in the world as of 2019-2020 and we do get encouraged by a flame of hope ever month. We are told that it will be out “soon” Be patent and wait a bit longer. And although it may not be that famous and lost
Cyber-F-150. We can always remember it as we driving the Cybertruck!
So a couple of bags will fit. I’m more impressed that it’s actually going to look like this. Yeah, it’s different that the original design, but it’s still screwed up looking.
As I have said before, the “cybertruck” was made for tech blogger silicon valley types to drool over. A truck it is not.
I mean to be fair it’s meant to compete against things that are also not trucks………..
If the EPA classifies it as a truck, then it’s a truck.
You mean this may have been primarily another stupid viral marketing thing? From Tesla? Really? I won’t believe it.
Damn! I’ll never fit Elon’s body in there. I mean, speaking hypothetically, that is.
Wait until Zuck’s done with him.
They may both be fundamentally unlovable dickwipes, and yes, there can be no winners here, but I don’t care; so long as the putative rumble takes place, and I get to see someone, *anyone* punch Musk right in the face, I will be happy.
That’s OK, Ford will loan you a Lightning.