If you’ve ever wanted to buy something a bit daft, a bit nonsensical, I recommend taking a stroll down the pages of GovDeals. Need a helicopter, a backhoe, and a police car all at the same time? You can find a government entity selling each on GovDeals. The wonderful auction platform is even where I found my beloved transit bus. Right now, you can get something exponentially more chaotic from GovDeals. The Southern California Regional Rail Authority is selling a 1992 EMD F59PH locomotive, but it’s going to need some work before you can get it back on the rails again.
Sadly, my season of railfanning has, for the most part, come to an end. My favorite train museum, the Illinois Railway Museum, has put most of its toys away to prepare for the upcoming winter. I got to experience a couple of awesome events at the museum before this, which you may get to read about soon.
For now, I wait until next year to ride vintage rail equipment again. Thankfully, some of you are keeping me warm and fuzzy with trains to look at. Today, 57sweptside sent in this EMD F59PH and I can’t stop laughing. I mean, what would you even do with a decommissioned locomotive? Maybe an absurd tiny house?
Now, before I continue, I do want to point out that if you have the kind of cash to just buy a locomotive, there are sites for that. Sterling Rail is full of rail equipment for sale for you to drool over. Still, I can’t help but giggle that California’s Metrolink is auctioning this thing off at the same place you can currently buy any one of about 204 school buses currently for sale. It’s not common, but some governments do offload whole locomotives on GovDeals.
From A Former Division Of General Motors
The might of General Motors used to spread far and wide beyond the cars and trucks you see today. In decades past, General Motors had a dominating grasp of various segments of the bus industry, ownership of North American Aviation, and nearly controlled the market for locomotives. Seriously, in 1953, General Motors’ Electro-Motive Division (EMD) held an incredible 73 percent of America’s locomotive market. Second place was the American Locomotive Company (Alco), which wasn’t even close at a mere 15 percent. By the mid-1960s, General Motors lost some ground and General Electric moved into second place, but GM’s EMD still controlled 70 percent of the market.
EMD traces its roots back to 1922 when Harold L. Hamilton and Paul Turner founded the Electro-Motive Engineering Corporation. The Ohio-based firm designed self-propelled passenger railcars that utilized Winton gasoline engines to generate power and General Electric motors for traction. As Assembly Magazine writes, the company’s name was quickly shortened to just the Electro-Motive Company and at the time, the firm didn’t have its own factory.
Instead, its railcars were an assemblage of power from Winton and GE with construction farmed out to the St. Louis Car Co., Standard Steel Car Co., and other companies. EMC sold its first railcar in 1924 and it featured a six-cylinder prime mover that produced 175 HP. By 1925, EMC ramped up production, selling 27 railcars that year. Later, Winton gas engines got as high as 400 HP. During the 1920s, Winton also had stationary and marine diesel engines before beginning an experiment to develop a four-stroke diesel engine for rail applications.
General Motors was also interested in diesel engines. Vice President of General Motors Research Laboratories, Charles Kettering, believed in the future of diesel power. In 1928, Kettering joined forces with Winton to develop a two-stroke diesel. But Winton had struggles keeping up with demand and development, then eventually found itself for sale. The National Park Service summarizes how General Motors changed railroad history:
In 1930, General Motors Corporation, principally an automobile manufacturer, acquired the Electro Motive Corporation and the Winton Engine Company, the latter an established producer of diesel engines, and from this merger came a much smaller, much lighter diesel engine capable of producing many horsepower. This advanced diesel engine powered the Chevrolet exhibit at the Chicago World’s Fair in 1933. Ralph Budd of the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad saw it there and decided to use this type of engine for his railroad’s Pioneer Zephyr, a prototype of lightweight, stainless steel, streamlined fast passenger trains.
On May 26, 1934, the sleek, silver Pioneer Zephyr set off on the return from a trip to Denver to run 1,015.4 miles to Chicago in 13 hours, 4 minutes and 58 seconds, an average speed of 76.61 miles per hour, though in fact the three-car articulated train exceeded 100 miles per hour during the trip. About the same time, the Union Pacific fielded the similar but bright yellow City of Salina, while in 1935 the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe purchased from Electro-Motive Corporation a pair of diesels to power the Super Chief between Chicago and Los Angeles. Thus the 1930s ushered in not only the era of the streamlined “lightweight” passenger train, but the era of diesel- electric motive power for passenger trains as well.
In March 1935, General Motors Corporation began construction of a huge plant for erection of diesel electric locomotives at La Grange, Illinois, where the company would have the capability of building the locomotive carbody on a cast underframe. The locomotives would employ General Electric motors. The first La Grange product proved to be a 600-horsepower diesel-electric switcher with a cab at one end and exposed running boards on each side. It would more or less serve as a model for the most popular switch-engines for more than a decade. In 1937, an enlarged La Grange plant turned out the first E-Units, streamlined passenger locomotives with built-in cab and running boards along each side of the engines concealed in the carbody, a design that came to be called the “covered wagon” type, because cab and engine were totally enclosed. In 1939, Electro-Motive built the first similarly streamlined Model FT freight locomotive, consisting of an “A” unit with cab, and a “B” unit without, coupled together. Two such pair could be operated together as an “A-B-B-A” combination of four locomotives, all relying on a single crew in a single control cab.
The National Park Service continued that being able to operate multiple diesel-electric locomotives from a single cab only further cemented the type’s, and EMD’s, future. Linking steam engines together necessitated a crew to operate each locomotive. But diesel-electric? A single fireman and engineer could take command of eight to ten locomotives from the controls of just one cab. This saved on labor. A single fuel further saved on costs as well and diesel-electrics didn’t need to guzzle down water like a steamer.
General Motors’ part of EMD history lasted all the way to 2010, when EMD was sold to Caterpillar’s Progress Rail. By 2010, EMD, now called Electro-Motive Diesel, had fallen to a market share of just 30 percent in America.
This EMD F59PH
Now that we’ve established just how awesome EMD was in locomotives, let’s take a look at what you can get from the Southern California Regional Rail Authority.
Development on the F59PH started in about 1985 when GO Transit of Toronto approached EMD with a proposal to help the system update its fleet. GO Transit’s EMD GP40TC and EMD F40PH units were aging and it was time for an update. The transit system’s proposal was for EMD to modify a GP59 freight locomotive (below) to be a better fit for passenger service. The new locomotives would get an independent head-end power (HEP) generator (this provides power to the passenger cars) with a full-cowl carbody featuring a comfort cab.
The prime mover would carry over from the “Geep” as well. Under the covers sits an EMD 12-710 G3A, a V12 with each cylinder displacing 710 cubic inches (11.6 liters) on its own! Rated output was 3,000 HP, or the same as an outgoing EMD F40PH, but this was a different platform. For example, since the HEP alternator in some EMD F40PHs is not independent of the prime mover, the engine had to run at full speed (893 RPM), even at idle throttle, to generate energy for the passenger cars. The F59PH models wouldn’t have that quirk. HEP generation came from a 14.6 liter CAT 3406 inline-six diesel engine.
GO Transit’s EMD F59PH locomotives were put into service in 1988. California’s Metrolink would get its first units in 1992. Later, the F59PH would get developed into the F59PHI, a more streamlined locomotive with 3,200 HP plus an isolated cab to reduce vibration and noise.
Metrolink used these locomotives for years before selling some off and retiring others. This locomotive was deactivated back in 2020. Apparently, a government grant required Metrolink to disable the locomotive by cutting holes into the prime mover and HEP generator. You can see a box-cut into the HEP generator and a rather large chunk taken out of the prime mover.
So, if you ever want to use this guy as a locomotive again, you’ll probably at minimum need to buy another EMD 12-710 G3A. Apparently, you can buy locomotive prime movers online, too!
Metrolink also states that it took some gauges, lights, and safety systems before putting this thing up for sale. Honestly, I’m not entirely sure what you would do with this locomotive. It’s going to cost a big pretty penny to purchase, some really hefty costs to transport, then even more money for whatever you do with it. Maybe it’s best for a museum or something.
[Sheryl’s Note: with the electric motors and diesely bits removed, I bet this would be a kickass tiny house. I’d totally live in it, anyway.]
Whatever you choose, bidding is currently at $50,000 with 9 days to go on GovDeals. Yes, you read that right, someone has actually entered a bid on this unit! Wherever it ends up, I bet this loco is going to be epic.
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This would look cool at a mansion decorated for the season and doing circles around a gigantic Christmas tree.
Fix up the cockpit so it looks nice, strip the rest for a tiny house and airbnb that thing. It would attract tons of people! You know you would want to stay in it! But yeah it would need a cockpit that looks functional so people can pretend to drive it.
How can you put so many words to paper without even mentioning that they also have at least THREE lots of railroad crossing signs (and possibly one gate? not sure)?
I mean, the possibilities are ENDLESS. Hell, you could buy them to put up in front of your new locomotive! 😀
Seriously, this just became my new rabbit hole to dive down when things are just too intense out here in the world. Thanks so much 🙂
One locomotive is not a train.
can i fit it with a lift, AT tires and a rooftop tent and go overlanding? Overrailing?
https://youtu.be/uO3ZEgv613k?si=d0ZNlsLq3AOWzJLT
You could always just stick it in your yard. A person in my neighborhood has a steam engine in his front yard. He always wanted one and before he moved it to his house it was once a siding, turned into a park. The city decided they wanted to redo the park so he had a section of rails installed in his front yard for it. Yes we have an HOA.
“off the rails”… but then how do I get it home?
Headed for Burning Man.
EMD 12-710 is 710 cubic inches per cylinder. Not 710 liters. That’d be insanely huge! I love your passion for trains Mercedes, always happy for more content.
Clear out the power units and build a model railroad set inside.
meh. no CarPlay. Pass.
What a find! This brings back a bunch of memories from a few years ago when I had to animate a derailment visualization. A F59PH was part of the consist and there weren’t any available that we deemed satisfactory, so I built it from scratch in 3dsMax. I actually just went back in the photo-files to see if this was the exact locomotive (it wasn’t). The animation, scrubbed a bit for marketing purposes is here (the F59PH shows up at 35 sec. and at the end):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_0B_UHGuM
Fascinating reconstruction. Thanks for posting the link!
Thanks! It was nice that this particular visualization was okayed for marketing after the case settled. Most of my stuff never sees the light of day.
Are you kidding me? I went into GovDeals to see what else they had and this came up:
https://www.govdeals.com/asset/19/25110
An “unknown vehicle”? Seems like a fertile topic for this crowd to investigate….
Look at the rake on that windshield… Maybe a rebodied ’90s Camaro?
Windshield rake would suggest 4th gen Firebird or Camaro.
I concurr. It’s a Belaro.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/09/introducing-the-belaro/
“1187 people viewed this today”
take a bow, sir
More train content please! I ride the Metrolink about 250 miles a week. The trains are push-pull, the engine is in front on the way to LA and in the rear on the way back, with a control car in front.
Interesting. I live in Southern Virginia and have trained up to DC area a couple times, the trains there are diesel powered south of DC, and then switch to electric power to go north of there. I know the diesel is a puller, no idea on the electric though.
Crazy.
But that’s how it goes.
Yeah Mark, especially since she put the word loco (crazy) at the end! I love that song…Ozzy!!!
GM used to also build electric loco’s for South African Railways (SAR). I know this because I own the number plate for 11003. 45 were built and…hell read about it yourself, ha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Class_11E
My grandfather was a huge rail fan, with a whole 2nd floor dedicated to his model set up, and items like switches in the back yard. He had a specific affinity for the Western Maryland. We would get RailPace and another magazine (maybe trains?) each week, and often go to meets and drive around “train chasing.” Some of the guys we would see may be in the market for this type of thing, but the logistics and cost to get it is only possible for an extremely small subset. I wonder what the value is for scrap parts to keep other fleet members running somewhere?
What gauge? My dad built a ton of HO railroads.
It was HO. Super impressive. Multi level, round table in engine house, primary switch center and controllers, as well as 3 auxiliary stations. Dozens of engines, hundreds of cars. It was mostly western Maryland livery, with a little pennsie passenger consist. The old steam engines were a pain to keep working! My favorite switches as a tyke were emery grove and Elkins. It was fun getting into whitewater when older and rediscovering the real locations I had seen so often in my grandfathers house!
Edit to add: my dad always talked about building a setup in our basement. Plans of tunnels drilled in the old Mason/plaster walls etc. after 35 years in that house still nothing more than a workbench with a single controller, 3 switches, and about 15 total feet of line. Really showed me how much work the big setup was!
Awesome! I want it! I totally love the puns in the headline…THANK YOU Mercedes for another train article
Well not the locomotive but club cars are restaurants a plenty in western PA. Grandma and Grampa used to live uphill of a huge Bethlehem Steel Rairoad yard, watching the cars move hook unhook to us was like a cellphone to today’s yutes.
My 3-year-old son loves trains.. so if someone feels like buying this and putting it in our back field I sure wouldn’t be mad about it!
You could have a steam train
If you’d just lay down your tracks
You could have an aeroplane flying
If you bring your blue sky back
I had a 6 month long obsession with locomotives and in particular diesel prime movers. EMD prime movers are some of the few huge industrial diesel engines that genuinely sound good. And not just good for a huge low revving engine, just good period. Especially the 710. GEs sound decent but they’re all four strokes so they have more of a low rumble sound whereas EMDs sound a bit more revvy like a Detroit (which makes sense as they do share some design features). Alcos almost sound like steam engines as they make a chuffing noise from their exhausts. By far the best sounding though, is the Napier Deltic locomotive built in the UK. There’s plenty of sound clips to listen to and it’s definitely a weird rabbit hole worth exploring.
The Napier Deltic is such an cool engine design, with it’s 2 opposing pistons per cylinder!
It was used in Nasty boats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Nasty-class_patrol_boat
One of the best engines for sure.
So cool! I agree with Sheryl that this would be an awesome tiny home. I always appreciate how much research you do on these stories, Mercedes! It was a pleasure to read about the development of EMD and their impact on locomotive history.
BTW, the EMD 710 displaces 710 cubic inches per cylinder (11.6 L). A 710 liter cylinder would be HUUUUUGE!. (https://www.progressrail.com/en/Segments/RollingStock/Locomotives/RepoweredLocomotives/EMD710ECO.html)
If it kept the same stroke of 9.01 inches, a 710 L cylinder would have a diameter of 13 feet!
You see, math was never my strong suit! Thank you for pointing that out. I meant to put “710 cubic inches per cylinder” there and note how many liters that is…I’m not entirely sure why my brain just wrote it as “710 liters” and called it a day. Ope. I have corrected that! 🙂
Hey it proves you aren’t cutting and pasting, which we knew you wouldn’t.
No worries – it wasn’t meant as a criticism at all! That just literally jumped off the page at me and I thought “that can’t be right!” so I went and looked it up. If I knew of a way to message you privately about it, I would have done that instead. Most importantly, that was an interesting and entertaining article – thanks again!
Driver Eight/Take a break/We’ve been on this shift too long
And the train Conductor says/Take a break Driver Eight
Driver Eight/Take a break/We can make our destination…
But it’s still a ways away/But it’s still a ways away