Given the little community we’ve built here, it’s safe to say that we all want to experience more cars. Fast cars, slow cars, big cars, small cars, cars powered by electricity or gasoline or steam. Unfortunately, not all cars are built for all humans, and sometimes our dreams are dashed by ergonomic concerns. Today, let’s talk about times our dreams were dashed by physical limitations.
Oh, and not fitting in a car isn’t just for people who are tall and/or built sturdy. Sometimes, cars aren’t built for shorter people, or people with longer legs than torso, or people who are longer in their torso than their legs. To an extent, there are cars we all don’t fit in, it just is what it is.
Take the Dodge Stealth, for example. Its a fascinatingly quick bit of ’90s cool, but I just don’t fit in the damn car. I’m not especially tall, but in a state of recline that gives me a safe reach of the steering wheel, my head hits the headliner. I adore the car, but I’m genuinely unsure if I could own one an actually fit in it safely. Shame, that.
Likewise, I quite like the Lexus UX. It’s a brilliant little posh hatchback for the city, but my right knee is always hard up against the plastic center console, which makes longer stints behind the wheel unworkable. Another shame, because the UX is just like a CT200h but better. Who wouldn’t want to daily that?
So, what are some vehicles you don’t fit into? Be it ergonomic concerns or a simple lack of space, let’s hear about those cars that just aren’t compatible with you.
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Dunno if I’m weirdly proportioned or just don’t like bending my feet certain ways, especially for only being 5’9″, but I almost always have seats pushed back as far as they can go, yet get frustratingly blinded when I wish the sun visors were just an inch taller.
But I can’t say I’ve found anything I outright don’t fit in.
I recall Mr. Regular pointing out that the C8 Corvettes are outright obesity-unfriendly with how they’re laid out.
Dunno if I’m weirdly proportioned or just don’t like bending my feet certain ways, especially for only being 5’9″, but I almost always have seats pushed back as far as they can go, yet get frustratingly blinded when I wish the sun visors were just an inch taller.
But I can’t say I’ve found anything I outright don’t fit in.
I recall Mr. Regular pointing out that the C8 Corvettes are outright obesity-unfriendly with how they’re laid out.
Oh man, at 6’4″ this hits home. A couple weeks ago, finally got to sit in a friend’s ’02 BMW M coupe, one of my long time dream cars that I’d been shopping for, only to find that I don’t comfortably fit-heart breaking.
I’d love to buy a Honda s2000, but having rented one once I can squeeze in but by the time I was in it for an hour or two I was ready to get out. And of course I can’t fit in the Miata comfortably enough to want to buy one either. Sigh…
6’4″ here as well. I have to intentionally test drive cars in an exaggerated position because normally I test drive cars later in the day. I tend to slouch a bit in the afternoon vs first thing in the morning. To best mimic my daily 5am 33-34 mile commute, that I sit up straight due to a stiff back, it is crucial to sit comically straight backed on the test drive.
There are so many cars that I just don’t fit in. Or, more importantly, I could maybe squeak into the drivers seat but no one of normal height would be comfortable in the back seat. There is a sweet spot I am living in now between car seats (which combined with a kids seems to take up as much room as me as a 6’4″-er, kids out of a booster up to maybe 5’2 – 5’4″ can sit behind me, then it all falls apart. That plus some cars have no feet space under a slammed to the floor front seat. I might only need to have a passenger behind me for less than 5% of my driving miles, but it is a requirement.
Yeh we’ve been shopping for a car for my wife that I’ll probably also wind up driving a lot and it’s been a good rule of thumb that if I can at least squeeze behind myself we know that’s a pretty usable back seat. But also is it just me or does it seem like everything else car seats have gotten worse even though they look fancier? Or is that just me not being 20 anymore lol. I sold my old Mazda 3 to my inlaws to use as a beater when they’re in town for a few months a year and they’re loaning it to me while we’re car shopping and I got out of it yesterday and my knee was aching and I’m limping and I’m like how the f did I drive this car for years.
Oh man, at 6’4″ this hits home. A couple weeks ago, finally got to sit in a friend’s ’02 BMW M coupe, one of my long time dream cars that I’d been shopping for, only to find that I don’t comfortably fit-heart breaking.
I’d love to buy a Honda s2000, but having rented one once I can squeeze in but by the time I was in it for an hour or two I was ready to get out. And of course I can’t fit in the Miata comfortably enough to want to buy one either. Sigh…
6’4″ here as well. I have to intentionally test drive cars in an exaggerated position because normally I test drive cars later in the day. I tend to slouch a bit in the afternoon vs first thing in the morning. To best mimic my daily 5am 33-34 mile commute, that I sit up straight due to a stiff back, it is crucial to sit comically straight backed on the test drive.
There are so many cars that I just don’t fit in. Or, more importantly, I could maybe squeak into the drivers seat but no one of normal height would be comfortable in the back seat. There is a sweet spot I am living in now between car seats (which combined with a kids seems to take up as much room as me as a 6’4″-er, kids out of a booster up to maybe 5’2 – 5’4″ can sit behind me, then it all falls apart. That plus some cars have no feet space under a slammed to the floor front seat. I might only need to have a passenger behind me for less than 5% of my driving miles, but it is a requirement.
Yeh we’ve been shopping for a car for my wife that I’ll probably also wind up driving a lot and it’s been a good rule of thumb that if I can at least squeeze behind myself we know that’s a pretty usable back seat. But also is it just me or does it seem like everything else car seats have gotten worse even though they look fancier? Or is that just me not being 20 anymore lol. I sold my old Mazda 3 to my inlaws to use as a beater when they’re in town for a few months a year and they’re loaning it to me while we’re car shopping and I got out of it yesterday and my knee was aching and I’m limping and I’m like how the f did I drive this car for years.
The Detomaso Pantera, and possibly my favorite car ever, the Mangusta. I still think they are so very pretty, but the driving position is so bad. No human fits in them well; the pedal box is shifted towards the center of the car because the front wheel well is right in front of you. So your upper body is straight ahead, and your lower body is at an angle. I hated it.
Came here to ay the same thing. At 6’3″ I could barely fit in as a passenger but getting behind the wheel I just said I can’t drive this. Stunning car though, for the time.
The Detomaso Pantera, and possibly my favorite car ever, the Mangusta. I still think they are so very pretty, but the driving position is so bad. No human fits in them well; the pedal box is shifted towards the center of the car because the front wheel well is right in front of you. So your upper body is straight ahead, and your lower body is at an angle. I hated it.
Came here to ay the same thing. At 6’3″ I could barely fit in as a passenger but getting behind the wheel I just said I can’t drive this. Stunning car though, for the time.
Miata. Top of the windshield is about eye level for me. With the top up I need to crouch.
Just about any compact sedan with a sunroof. I hated it when I couldn’t get leather seats without a sunroof.
Miata. Top of the windshield is about eye level for me. With the top up I need to crouch.
Just about any compact sedan with a sunroof. I hated it when I couldn’t get leather seats without a sunroof.
5’4″ here. I fit in or on just about everything. With some vehicles the issue I have is reaching everything. I can usually get the seat, pedals, and and steering wheel lined up fairly well if not completely comfortable. But after getting that sorted I find reaching radio or glovebox or switches almost requires unbuckling and scrabbling around for leverage.
Another sawed-off 5’4″ person here. Seat adustability in the average vehicle is sufficient that I can comfortably drive anything, from tiny sportscars to big honkin’ trucks just fine.
Except for 3rd-gen Chevy Caprices, unless there’s a power driver seat.
Why? Because the dashboard is so damn tall in them. With the manual bench seat and the cushion even slightly squashed or sagging (which means all of them…) it’s like sitting behind the tall instrument panel of a Cessna. Forward visibility is straight ahead over a cliff. Impossible to see the hood or the corners.
And yet, I had to learn parallel park in a 3rd-gen Caprice wagon in driver ed. Blind spots? It’s more like Luke Skywalker learning to swing a lightsaber with the helmet and blinder on.
5’4″ here. I fit in or on just about everything. With some vehicles the issue I have is reaching everything. I can usually get the seat, pedals, and and steering wheel lined up fairly well if not completely comfortable. But after getting that sorted I find reaching radio or glovebox or switches almost requires unbuckling and scrabbling around for leverage.
Another sawed-off 5’4″ person here. Seat adustability in the average vehicle is sufficient that I can comfortably drive anything, from tiny sportscars to big honkin’ trucks just fine.
Except for 3rd-gen Chevy Caprices, unless there’s a power driver seat.
Why? Because the dashboard is so damn tall in them. With the manual bench seat and the cushion even slightly squashed or sagging (which means all of them…) it’s like sitting behind the tall instrument panel of a Cessna. Forward visibility is straight ahead over a cliff. Impossible to see the hood or the corners.
And yet, I had to learn parallel park in a 3rd-gen Caprice wagon in driver ed. Blind spots? It’s more like Luke Skywalker learning to swing a lightsaber with the helmet and blinder on.
I would like to fit in a Lotus Europa. At 6’6” and with a not bending leg it is not going to happen
I would like to fit in a Lotus Europa. At 6’6” and with a not bending leg it is not going to happen
I’m 6’3″ and luckily I haven’t been in too many cars I wish I fit in but off the top of my head I can think of 2. I sat in a Fiesta ST. I could probably drive it no problem. It just would have been a pain in the ass to get in and out of with the bolsters. Especially in a narrow parking spot.
The other car is a 91 RX-7 convertible. My friend had one and I loved driving it but I basically had my legs wrapped around the steering wheel. Was only suitable for the shortest of drives.
good ( and sad ) to know on the Fiesta ST, I”m 6’4 and had been eyeing them as a possible fun daily, sigh another one out
I wouldn’t rule it out. Maybe you will be more comfortable in it than I was. I’d say give it a look. My biggest concern was getting in and out but sitting in the car I felt like I had a decent amount of room for its size
Gotcha-I’ll still try to drive one then, though getting in and out of tiny cars is not getting any easier…
I’m 6’3″ and luckily I haven’t been in too many cars I wish I fit in but off the top of my head I can think of 2. I sat in a Fiesta ST. I could probably drive it no problem. It just would have been a pain in the ass to get in and out of with the bolsters. Especially in a narrow parking spot.
The other car is a 91 RX-7 convertible. My friend had one and I loved driving it but I basically had my legs wrapped around the steering wheel. Was only suitable for the shortest of drives.
good ( and sad ) to know on the Fiesta ST, I”m 6’4 and had been eyeing them as a possible fun daily, sigh another one out
I wouldn’t rule it out. Maybe you will be more comfortable in it than I was. I’d say give it a look. My biggest concern was getting in and out but sitting in the car I felt like I had a decent amount of room for its size
Gotcha-I’ll still try to drive one then, though getting in and out of tiny cars is not getting any easier…
For my favorite TV example – Tom Selleck and Ferrari 308s.
He was entirely too tall to fit, so they did their best to work around it – they removed all the seat padding so he was basically sitting on upholstered plywood, and there are extremely few scenes where Magnum drives it with the top in place.
Even after all that, there are plenty of shots where his head is clearly sticking up past the roofline.
For my favorite TV example – Tom Selleck and Ferrari 308s.
He was entirely too tall to fit, so they did their best to work around it – they removed all the seat padding so he was basically sitting on upholstered plywood, and there are extremely few scenes where Magnum drives it with the top in place.
Even after all that, there are plenty of shots where his head is clearly sticking up past the roofline.
I’m on the fringe of being a manlet (I’m about a generously rounded 5’10) so fortunately I fit in just about everything. I am a stocky fellow though, and sometimes real hardcore sports seats are constricting. That’s actually one of the reasons why I got my Kona N over an Elantra N.
ehhhh 5’9″ is 50th percentile, so you’re actually taller than half of the population.
Depends on the demographic. 5’10 is average for US non-hispanic white.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country
That’s still well within average height range, marketing be damned.
I’m the runt at 5’4″, right there with the legendary Jackie Stewart. 🙂
I’m on the fringe of being a manlet (I’m about a generously rounded 5’10) so fortunately I fit in just about everything. I am a stocky fellow though, and sometimes real hardcore sports seats are constricting. That’s actually one of the reasons why I got my Kona N over an Elantra N.
ehhhh 5’9″ is 50th percentile, so you’re actually taller than half of the population.
Depends on the demographic. 5’10 is average for US non-hispanic white.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country
That’s still well within average height range, marketing be damned.
I’m the runt at 5’4″, right there with the legendary Jackie Stewart. 🙂
I’m average tall (6′) and although I can fit in many cars it’s the comfortably part.
Like my Chevy Bolt, I have tons of headroom, but legroom I’m always shuffling my legs around, I have the seat all the way back but not super reclined, but the steering wheel doesn’t telescope back far enough, and I don’t have T-Rex arms, got about a 6′ wingspan too. I’m considering getting a steering wheel spacer. And again that’s on a car that’s fairly upright, in/out, and tons of headroom. I could bump the seat up to ease the legroom, but then I’m starting to have to duck down to see traffic lights. And this is with all the up/down options on seat and steering wheel that not all cars used to have.
I try various cars at the local yearly auto show, and there’s a few I fit comfortably but most it’s some issue. Previous generation Jeep Wranglers were not comfy, think it’s a little better with the current generation, where the roll bar is behind the driver seat was the issue, they added a little notch now. Broncos I fit ok in so there’s that, and trucks, but I like me some smaller sporty type cars but again not enough variation to get super comfy, and mainly think it’s the steering wheels.
Yes! First mention of the Jeep Wrangler. Only thing I’ve driven and could not get comfortable. My brother owned one in late 90s, my left shoulder always pressed against the door. 6′ and ~200lbs, the wife likes to complain my son’s inherited my shoulders. I also check them out at the annual car shows. I disagree about them being better now. Still too narrow for me.
I’m average tall (6′) and although I can fit in many cars it’s the comfortably part.
Like my Chevy Bolt, I have tons of headroom, but legroom I’m always shuffling my legs around, I have the seat all the way back but not super reclined, but the steering wheel doesn’t telescope back far enough, and I don’t have T-Rex arms, got about a 6′ wingspan too. I’m considering getting a steering wheel spacer. And again that’s on a car that’s fairly upright, in/out, and tons of headroom. I could bump the seat up to ease the legroom, but then I’m starting to have to duck down to see traffic lights. And this is with all the up/down options on seat and steering wheel that not all cars used to have.
I try various cars at the local yearly auto show, and there’s a few I fit comfortably but most it’s some issue. Previous generation Jeep Wranglers were not comfy, think it’s a little better with the current generation, where the roll bar is behind the driver seat was the issue, they added a little notch now. Broncos I fit ok in so there’s that, and trucks, but I like me some smaller sporty type cars but again not enough variation to get super comfy, and mainly think it’s the steering wheels.
Yes! First mention of the Jeep Wrangler. Only thing I’ve driven and could not get comfortable. My brother owned one in late 90s, my left shoulder always pressed against the door. 6′ and ~200lbs, the wife likes to complain my son’s inherited my shoulders. I also check them out at the annual car shows. I disagree about them being better now. Still too narrow for me.
One benefit of being the most average of average heights I fit in most cars and motorcycles just fine from a tiny AZ-1 to giant F-250s. The only car I never fit properly in was my old MGB. If I moved the seat close enough to fully reach the pedals then the steering wheel was in my chest. If I scooched back a bit to put a comfortable distance between me and the wheel I couldn’t fully depress the clutch pedal without twisting my hip and stretching out my toes. The seat back was also fixed in an upright position so reclining away from the wheel wasn’t an option either.
One benefit of being the most average of average heights I fit in most cars and motorcycles just fine from a tiny AZ-1 to giant F-250s. The only car I never fit properly in was my old MGB. If I moved the seat close enough to fully reach the pedals then the steering wheel was in my chest. If I scooched back a bit to put a comfortable distance between me and the wheel I couldn’t fully depress the clutch pedal without twisting my hip and stretching out my toes. The seat back was also fixed in an upright position so reclining away from the wheel wasn’t an option either.
I’m around 6’1″ so I’m not particularly tall, but I get that height by having the torso of a guy who is 6’6″ and the legs of someone who is 5’8″. I have issues with headroom in most vehicles, but unlike a tall person I can’t move the seat back and comfortably reach the wheel or pedals.
As a result, most smaller vehicles don’t fit me well. I have tried and failed to fit comfortably in several cars. The ones I can recall at the moment include the Viper (I couldn’t get in a Viper car at all), Miata (I could only get in with the top down), Boxster, Supra, Smart Fortwo, Fiat 500, Alfa Romeo 4C, and the current generation Camaro.
Fortunately, I prefer pickup trucks over sports cars. I can’t fit in most sports cars, but I can still find vehicles I enjoy driving. Still, I would like to find a vehicle like the Miata or Boxster that I actually fit in.
My brother from another mother! 6’2″ with a 32″ inseam and 37.5″ sleeve length over here.
I fit comfortably in next to nothing barring giant, expensive SUVs which are very inconsistent with and unnecessary for our lifestyle.
The worst part of being strangely proportioned is that tall people don’t understand why we can’t fit in a lot of cars. I was at an auto show in 2015 or so when I tried and failed to fit in a Camaro due to a lack of headroom. A guy who was 6’7″ fit in the car just fine and didn’t believe me when I said I had trouble fitting. Turns out he had a 40″ inseam compared to my 30″ inseam. Tall people don’t understand that sitting height doesn’t always correlate with standing height.
Having the torso of a giant and the limbs of a dwarf is tough, at least when it comes to buying cars and clothes.
My dudes! 6′ with a 30″ inseam. When we were setting up our lemons car I could sit back to back level headed with my 6′ 4 teammates. I have to bend to see traffic lights in my soon to be for sale Honda Beat and I dare not try the other ABC cars. But also my average height wife and I don’t have to slide the seat forward and back. I know a Lotus Europa is out despite my dreams.
Damn, you guys are making me feel normal over here with my 5’10” or so height on a 30″ inseam. And I’m used to looking people up to 6’4″ in the eye when seated. I’m generally grateful for almost never lacking legroom, but I’m sympathetic to anyone not being able to achieve a decent driving position in a vehicle they like.
Try a minivan
I’m around 6’1″ so I’m not particularly tall, but I get that height by having the torso of a guy who is 6’6″ and the legs of someone who is 5’8″. I have issues with headroom in most vehicles, but unlike a tall person I can’t move the seat back and comfortably reach the wheel or pedals.
As a result, most smaller vehicles don’t fit me well. I have tried and failed to fit comfortably in several cars. The ones I can recall at the moment include the Viper (I couldn’t get in a Viper car at all), Miata (I could only get in with the top down), Boxster, Supra, Smart Fortwo, Fiat 500, Alfa Romeo 4C, and the current generation Camaro.
Fortunately, I prefer pickup trucks over sports cars. I can’t fit in most sports cars, but I can still find vehicles I enjoy driving. Still, I would like to find a vehicle like the Miata or Boxster that I actually fit in.
My brother from another mother! 6’2″ with a 32″ inseam and 37.5″ sleeve length over here.
I fit comfortably in next to nothing barring giant, expensive SUVs which are very inconsistent with and unnecessary for our lifestyle.
The worst part of being strangely proportioned is that tall people don’t understand why we can’t fit in a lot of cars. I was at an auto show in 2015 or so when I tried and failed to fit in a Camaro due to a lack of headroom. A guy who was 6’7″ fit in the car just fine and didn’t believe me when I said I had trouble fitting. Turns out he had a 40″ inseam compared to my 30″ inseam. Tall people don’t understand that sitting height doesn’t always correlate with standing height.
Having the torso of a giant and the limbs of a dwarf is tough, at least when it comes to buying cars and clothes.
My dudes! 6′ with a 30″ inseam. When we were setting up our lemons car I could sit back to back level headed with my 6′ 4 teammates. I have to bend to see traffic lights in my soon to be for sale Honda Beat and I dare not try the other ABC cars. But also my average height wife and I don’t have to slide the seat forward and back. I know a Lotus Europa is out despite my dreams.
Damn, you guys are making me feel normal over here with my 5’10” or so height on a 30″ inseam. And I’m used to looking people up to 6’4″ in the eye when seated. I’m generally grateful for almost never lacking legroom, but I’m sympathetic to anyone not being able to achieve a decent driving position in a vehicle they like.
Try a minivan
I’ve never been a big Miata fan, though I love that they exist and I had thought of buying an NA when they were dirt cheap to convert it into a streamliner. Technically, I fit, but I find them uncomfortably cramped and I’m only 5’11” and slim, though with longer limbs (yeah, I know, guy who’s taller than Shaq and outweighs Andre the Giant, you fit very well in your BiL’s college roommate’s cousin’s Miata—good for you). On the flip side, I fit quite well in Saab Sonnets, which are much tinier cars (of course, older cars were far more space efficient for their footprints thanks to a lack of safety and not needing 40 computers that need to be jammed in). Since it’s old cars I much prefer, there really isn’t anything else that I can think of that I like, but don’t fit in that I’ve tried.
Yeah it’s weird how much the proportion thing matters, I’m 6’4 and fit quite comfortably in the e30 I used to daily even thought they’re tiny by modern standards.